With a training camp I think he can. He's played some RG IIRC.Will Jones be able to overcome that if Howard cannot start?
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With a training camp I think he can. He's played some RG IIRC.Will Jones be able to overcome that if Howard cannot start?
I think Scruggs & Paterson "proved" themselves through the same non padded practices.When the CBA doesn't allow full pad practices, how do you "win" the starting position? But more to the point, Jones is proven at LT, not at RT. If resigned, we'll see if he can be an effective swing tackle.
The limitation of full pad practices may also be one reason Broeker has not been able to prove himself. He's another one who'll benefit from an off season with the Texans.
Scruggs had snaps in all 3 preseason games and in retrospect had won the starting position at Center. With our injuries he apparently had shown enough for the coaching staff to move him to LG.I think Scruggs & Paterson "proved" themselves through the same non padded practices.
How many padded practices did they have through OTAs & training camp?Both Scruggs and Patterson had gone through OTAs and training camp.
Through OTAs and Minicamp, zero of course. Once training camp started, they had 20 practices scheduled. How many were full contact, you're free to research this. I'm not.How many padded practices did they have through OTAs & training camp?
Maybe a little off topic, but they'll all have a full off-season to heal, revisit this seasons games to look at mistakes and tendencies and possible new plays to implement and a new crop of rookies and FA's to assimilate.How many padded practices did they have through OTAs & training camp?
I don’t get the oline hate here. I wouldn’t change anything at all. Other than a possible business decision on Fant. He may have earned a starter level contract elsewhere. Good for him. My only concern is health, and that’s more about Lady Luck than anything else. It doesn’t seem possible to be this unlucky two years in a row. Give me reasonable health, and this oline will rock next year.
That link conveniently left out his run blocking grade - 47.8, the worst on the OL for that game.Our future left guard?
Former Penn State OL Juice Scruggs garnering praise amid first NFL playoff run
Former Penn State football OL Juice Scruggs has been impressive his rookie season according to his head coach and he has the numbers to back it up.basicbluesnation.com
That link conveniently left out his run blocking grade - 47.8, the worst on the OL for that game.
Scruggs may have improved as his playing time progressed, I haven't looked into this, but for the season among OGs, he ranked #100 with a grade of 51.0.
Deiter ranked #38 among OCs with a grade of 57.9 and the position needs upgrading. In training camp Scruggs had won the starting position over Patterson and most likely it will be between these two this next year.
LG will most likely be between the two Greens. Patterson could be in the mix. With Kenyon Green's injury history, I'm thinking Kendrick Green may have the edge.
This year our OL ranked #19 in pass blocking and also ranked #19 in run blocking. If we can stay relatively healthy we should see improvement next year which should improve our run game.
Even with our below average blocking, our offense ranked #12 on Stroud's play. With an improved OL and an improved run game, we could have a top 10 offense next year.
Last year, 2022, OC Tyler Linderbaum was thougbt of pretty highly on TT and was drafted 1/25. He started as a rookie and ended the season ranked #6. This year he ranks #9.Do guards and Centers ever grade high as rookies? , seems most don’t hit their stride till year 4. I ain’t looking at spreadsheets though just shooting off my thoughts
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Ryans said he really liked the job Patterson did at center. Juice is improving and should provide great competition in TC with the Green's for those 2 spots. Isn't it great that the OL finally has some depth? I could also see Kenyon get the swing OT job if he doesn't win the starting LG spot, which would be disappointing. He played both OT spots at A&M.That link conveniently left out his run blocking grade - 47.8, the worst on the OL for that game.
Scruggs may have improved as his playing time progressed, I haven't looked into this, but for the season among OGs, he ranked #100 with a grade of 51.0.
Deiter ranked #38 among OCs with a grade of 57.9 and the position needs upgrading. In training camp Scruggs had won the starting position over Patterson and most likely it will be between these two this next year.
LG will most likely be between the two Greens. Patterson could be in the mix. With Kenyon Green's injury history, I'm thinking Kendrick Green may have the edge.
This year our OL ranked #19 in pass blocking and also ranked #19 in run blocking. If we can stay relatively healthy we should see improvement next year which should improve our run game.
Even with our below average blocking, our offense ranked #12 on the strength of Stroud's play. With an improved OL and an improved run game, we could have a top 10 offense next year.
If Green can finally get healthy and play up to his talent level that would solve a lot of the OL issues.I really want Kenyon Green to work out. Not because he was a 1st round pick. That’s a sunk cost.
But because he showed the ability to be a nasty mauler in the run game when he was in college. The team needs that.
Well that totally shocks me! I would have thought he would have provided his medical records after saying how bad he was doing?Guys (and gals), I hit up none other than the man, the myth, the legend (aka Tytus Howard) on Twitter about his injury, and he responded to me.
Can't let @Porky have his moment without dousing the cold water of reality?Well that totally shocks me! I would have thought he would have provided his medical records after saying how bad he was doing?
I do believe he's going to play this yr. How well is the question and I wouldn't expect him to play better than the avg player he was before injury.Well that totally shocks me! I would have thought he would have provided his medical records after saying how bad he was doing?
After the season and Janice McNair winning her court case against her son, I think things are going good for the Texans so why not?I do believe he's going to play this yr. How well is the question and I wouldn't expect him to play better than the avg player he was before injury.
Very generous of you.Sorry but I did wait 2 hours before I replied so I guess he got his moment. LOL
Thanks! I try.Very generous of you.
With all the talk from outside media and fans about using another high draft pick on the OL, would you draft an OL in the first 3 rounds?
Hey man, what do you think of our line with a healthy Howard at RT?Of course, we can't possibly know how well he really is doing, but I cannot rest easy. I would draft linemen with my first 2 picks ! I think CJ's protection is paramount in our quest .... I don't think we will ever have a QB with his talent again. Don't forget to remember, he already missed multiple games due to concussion !
I'm trying to follow your thought process,After the season and Janice McNair winning her court case against her son, I think things are going good for the Texans so why not?
As I pointed out, the 2023 season was really good and positive for us as was Janice winning the lawsuit. I would like to project that Howard returning to start at any time during the 2024 season would also be extremely good and positive.I'm trying to follow your thought process,
What does the Janice lawsuit have to do with the Howard injury or the likelihood of him returning to his previous rate of play, which frankly was avg at best?
LT Laremy Tunsil recently underwent knee surgery to clean up an issue that arose during the season, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, adding that Tunsil should make a quick recovery.
That'll be about 8 months post op. About what is to be expected for a quick rehab. If he does make it back that soon it remains to be seen whether it's at 100% pre-injury. Or 90%, or 80%, or what.I heard on 610 radio that Caserio said Tytus Howard will be ready for training camp.
Hey man, what do you think of our line with a healthy Howard at RT?
What if anything would you do this off-season to make it better?
Hey man, what do you think of our line with a healthy Howard at RT?
What if anything would you do this off-season to make it better?
No kidding .... I've never seen play hard or dominate for one play .... I can't imagine what he would look like. I have seen backup RT, can't remember his name, Battling like hell !!! Did we cut our punter ? I remember looking at Patterson's physique and thinking he looked strong and athletic .... 31 1/3" arms - is that long enough for center ?
In a perfect world Texans take bpa and fill biggest need. 42nd pick will be one heck of player, regardless which side of the ball he plays. This is a really great OT & WR class. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if it goes done in that order or draft immovable force T’Vondre Sweat.
When did Nick say that? Because I don't remember Caserio being that specific when speaking of Howard in his interview with Payne and Pendergast on Tuesday.I heard on 610 radio that Caserio said Tytus Howard will be ready for training camp.
2022 was the first and only season Howard played in every game. He's missed 22 games over 5 seasons. Played hurt in others. Not sure if he ever played healthy in 2023.I'm sorry .... just now saw this . Truth is .... I don't that I've ever seen him healthy
He's really raw, but lots of improvement each year. 5 sacks as a sophmore; 4 sacks as a junior; 3 sacks as a senior; 0 sacks as a fifth year senior. Has all the physical traits. Draftbuzz says good movement and feet. Like what they have to say about him. Could be worth one of our 4sTexans apparently like Christian Jones.
Offensive tackle Christian Jones was drilled by the New Orleans Saints, and he looked good. Teams are looking at him as a right tackle on Sundays. One team keen on Jones is the Houston Texans, who could use the 86th pick to draft him.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/new...worth-notes-adonai-mitchell-ja-tavion-sanders
Nothing here indicating he'll be back for TC.When did Nick say that? Because I don't remember Caserio being that specific when speaking of Howard in his interview with Payne and Pendergast on Tuesday.
Here's a link to the Caserio interview on 610. Nick's response to Howard's status begins at 37:24. The following is my transcription.
"Tytus has some work done in the offseason, after the season. Honestly, Tytus is a tough dude. He's very tough, physically tough. He probably played more hurt than maybe people realized last year. Ultimately, we decided to shut him down, had to shut him down. He's got a good attitude, some of the pain has subsided. So the procedure he had done will hopefully help him. He's been here every day, so he's starting to make progress. So really, the best thing is for all these players is to come in, work with our training staff, work with our sports performance staff, and take it one day at a time. As far as timing of when they are going to be on the field, we're not too caught up in that. If he's making progress, moving in the right direction, that's the most important thing."
To be fair, it is hard to evaluate Howard as he is not remained at right tackle. He is not a guard either side. Concerning Patterson's arms, you are correct, they are extremely short. However, it has not impacted him in college at Notre Dame or NFL. He has yet to give up a sack.No kidding .... I've never seen play hard or dominate for one play .... I can't imagine what he would look like. I have seen backup RT, can't remember his name, Battling like hell !!! Did we cut our punter ? I remember looking at Patterson's physique and thinking he looked strong and athletic .... 31 1/3" arms - is that long enough for center ?
beats me! As I said, the guys on 610 radio brought it up and said that he would be ready. To be honest I was stunned. As everyone knows, I do not think that Tytus Howard will play this year but I'm certainly going to admit if I am wrong.When did Nick say that? Because I don't remember Caserio being that specific when speaking of Howard in his interview with Payne and Pendergast on Tuesday.
Here's a link to the Caserio interview on 610. Nick's response to Howard's status begins at 37:24. The following is my transcription.
"Tytus has some work done in the offseason, after the season. Honestly, Tytus is a tough dude. He's very tough, physically tough. He probably played more hurt than maybe people realized last year. Ultimately, we decided to shut him down, had to shut him down. He's got a good attitude, some of the pain has subsided. So the procedure he had done will hopefully help him. He's been here every day, so he's starting to make progress. So really, the best thing is for all these players is to come in, work with our training staff, work with our sports performance staff, and take it one day at a time. As far as timing of when they are going to be on the field, we're not too caught up in that. If he's making progress, moving in the right direction, that's the most important thing."
beats me! As I said, the guys on 610 radio brought it up and said that he would be ready. To be honest I was stunned. As everyone knows, I do not think that Tytus Howard will play this year but I'm certainly going to admit if I am wrong.