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QB Hand Size Important........Valid or Myth?

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Why a quarterback's hand size matters to the NFL

Brett Favre's big hands influenced the way the Packers evaluated QBs, says one former assistant.
The Sporting News


By Bruce Feldman @brucefeldmancfb Feb 22, 2016 at 4:14p ET


It’s Combine week, and hundreds of NFL evaluators will be watching closely to get a better gauge on everything. Pretty much every player in Indy has gone to various Combine training places to improve on, among other things: their 40s, their shuttle times, their vertical jumps, the amount of times they can bench press 225 pounds and how well they can present their football savvy in a classroom setting.


Arkansas quarterback Brandon Allen has worked diligently on all those things at a camp in South Florida. In addition, he’s also worked on something else -- trying to increase his hand size. Well, more specifically, his hand measurement.


The size of a quarterback’s hand has gained increased attention in the past few years. For my book "The QB: The Making of Modern Quarterbacks,” I spoke with Tom Rossley, who was the Green Bay Packers’ former offensive coordinator and later recruited Johnny Manziel to Texas A&M when he was the Aggies’ quarterbacks coach. Rossley said one of the first things they looked at when they evaluated quarterbacks in Green Bay was how big their hands were, "because of how Brett (Favre) was and how well he could play in cold weather,” Rossley said. “That’s such a key with handling the ball, controlling the ball, and with the snap coming out. The size of a quarterback’s hands is even more important than his height."


Favre’s hands were measured by the NFL years ago (from thumb tip to pinkie tip) at 10 3⁄8 inches. For comparison’s sake, Tony Romo’s hand was measured at 8.88 inches. Anything bigger than 9 1⁄2 is considered large for an NFL QB prospect.


At the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., last month, Allen’s hands were measured at 8 1/2 inches -- the smallest of all the QBs there.


"It’s obviously something I can’t control,” Allen said, before adding that as part of his draft training process, the masseuse who helps the athletes with recovery has also been working twice a week on stretching out the QB’s hands “to maybe get another 1/2 inch or 1/4 inch here or there because the muscles in my hands were really tight and this can loosen them up. I have long fingers.

While many may figure the biggest issue with small hands manifests itself in fumbling, the coaches and personnel people FOX Sports spoke with say it’s really more about being able to grip and throw the ball in inclement weather.

Allen, Arkansas’ career touchdown passes leader with 64, actually had decent fumble numbers in college. In 2015, he had four fumbles and lost one. For comparison sake, that’s the exact same numbers that Cal’s Jared Goff had. Mississippi State’s Dak Prescott, who played in the same division as Allen and had some of the biggest hands at the Senior Bowl at 9 7/8, fumbled nine times and lost four in 2015.


Virginia Tech’s Logan Thomas, who has some of the biggest hands for a QB that NFL personnel people have measured in years -- 10 7/8 inches -- fumbled nine times in his final college season, losing three of them. Check the NFL totals on the guys who fumble the most and it’s hard to draw much of a parallel to hand size. Drew Brees, who has very big mitts, fumbles at almost the same rate as Tony Romo. Russell Wilson, another guy with very big hands (10 1/4), has fumbled at a much higher rate than Alex Smith (9 3/8 inches) has over the past three seasons.
Two years ago one of the hottest topics in the run-up to the NFL Draft was the supposed dismal performance
Teddy Bridgewater had at his pro day. The former Louisville star had opted not to wear a glove on his throwing hand even though he wears one when he plays. That triggered even more focus on Bridgewater’s hands, which were measured at 9 1/4 inches, the smallest of any of the top QB prospects who were coming out for the draft that year. At the time ESPN researched that since 2008 there had been 39 quarterbacks who had been measured with a hand size of 9 1/4 or smaller; less than one-fifth o them had even gone on to start half a season in the NFL and none had made a Pro Bowl.

Bridgewater, who completed 68 percent of his passes and had a 14-to-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio on third downs at Louisville, lasted until the 32nd pick of the first round. The Vikings drafted Bridgewater, who won Rookie of the Year honors and was selected to the Pro Bowl in his second season.
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I'm not going to take or pass up a guy solely because he has tarantula or Burger King hands, but it'll factor in a bit towards how much better or worse I already feel about him after judging all the big important factors (accuracy, intelligence, processing speed, field vision, arm strength, pocket awareness, athleticism, work ethic, crisis management, etc).

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So... hand size is one of the "important" measurable we get from the Combine as it relates to QBs.

What else are you looking for here to help validate what you saw during the season? 40 time? Bench? Vertical?

One thing I'd like to see would be velocity, but the speeds we get from the combine aren't "official" I think it would be nice if they could come up with a drill that levels the playing field as much as possible, like they do with the guys coming off the blocks in the 40. That would be interesting.
 
So... hand size is one of the "important" measurable we get from the Combine as it relates to QBs.

What else are you looking for here to help validate what you saw during the season? 40 time? Bench? Vertical?

One thing I'd like to see would be velocity, but the speeds we get from the combine aren't "official" I think it would be nice if they could come up with a drill that levels the playing field as much as possible, like they do with the guys coming off the blocks in the 40. That would be interesting.

For arm strength?

There was a site that used to track that stuff...I'll try to find it....

But I mean...It would be pretty easy to do I think....To test arm strength while still being accurate.....

Just have some hoops of various sizes....Have QB's do like two different drop backs, Have them roll out to both sides...And then have one where they throw the ball as far as they can twice....

So the results would look like : 7 step drop 15 yard sideline throw to the right - Targets hit/Avg velocity

And so on for the different types of throws they did did, and then last for the throw the ball as far as you can Avg yards/Avg time it took the ball to travel that distance.

They could develop some kind of standardized drill for QB's if they wanted to, and if they did I would love to watch it and see the numbers.
 
Actual size doesn't matter all that much imo unless a guy has abnormally small hands for their size. hand strength is what matters more..don't understand why coaches don't focus on that more.
 
Actual size doesn't matter all that much imo unless a guy has abnormally small hands for their size. hand strength is what matters more..don't understand why coaches don't focus on that more.

You only had to change three words (4 if you count 'an' omission) in that huh?
 
I think the size of their balls is more important than the hands. The only thing small hands do is they give you the illusion of bigger balls.
 
One of the most accurate passers I had ever seen was Hall of Famer, Troy Aikman. He had small hands and also threw a terrible wet football in the elements (gloves or no gloves - he preferred no gloves though). But that didn't seem to bother him much as he was a three-time Super Bowl champion and classy winner throughout his amazing NFL career. I don't know if it really matters all that much.

Truth be told, I'd be more worried about concussions ending a quarterback's career early. Which the NFL has taken the proper measures to protect quarterbacks and avoid more concussions. Steve Young was another successful Super Bowl winning quarterback with small hands. His career also ended a little early due to concussions.
 
="Bulls on Parade, post: 2583232, member: 39522"]One of the most accurate passers I had ever seen was Hall of Famer, Troy Aikman. He had small hands and also threw a terrible wet football in the elements (gloves or no gloves - he preferred no gloves though). But that didn't seem to bother him much as he was a three-time Super Bowl champion and classy winner throughout his amazing NFL career. I don't know if it really matters all that much.

Truth be told, I'd be more worried about concussions ending a quarterback's career early. Which the NFL has taken the proper measures to protect quarterbacks and avoid more concussions. Steve Young was another successful Super Bowl winning quarterback with small hands. His career also ended a little early due to concussions.

I'm thinking you better research Aikman again on his hand size .
 
I'm thinking you better research Aikman again on his hand size .


Same thing I was thinking.


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Aikman had an unusual grip in which his fingers mostly touched the leather, not the laces. You can't have a good grip to throw a football like that without a very large hand.



Left to right: Tom Landry, Bart Starr, Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman

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Same thing I was thinking.


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Aikman had an unusual grip in which his fingers mostly touched the leather, not the laces. You can't have a good grip to throw a football like that without a very large hand.



Left to right: Tom Landry, Emmit Smith, Bart Starr, Troy Aikman

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I thought he was like 10.5 .
 
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