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Possible future QB solution?

Perki-Perk

Perki-Perk

DieHard Texan!
Any chance we could get Cousins from the Skins?

He looked great Sunday and if we could get him for a couple second rounders ala Shaub, would you bite?
 
he will have 4 years in shannys system. kubiak, if hes still around, will love that. i told my brother in law, watch cousins end up being the next texans starting qb..

that throw he made on the bootleg was a thing of beauty, in triple coverage he dropped it in his receivers hands, in stride.. i dont know much else about cousins..
 
Plenty of time to watch Cousins at a distance before Kubiak needs to make that call. If he likes what he sees then he might try to make a deal. If Yates progresses there might not be any reason to. The moment Yates stops progressing (if that happens) Kubiak will be on to the next guy.
 
Fiddler said:
Didn't know we had a QB problem?
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Neither did a bunch of 49er's fans last year when Smith took them to the NFC Championship game. They thought good enough was good enough. Harbaugh thought different and made a change.

Schaub is good enough until Kubiak decides he isn't I guess. I'd have a hard time saying that Schaub was so good that the position was beyond the possibility of upgrading.

I don't think we have that kind of knowledge about Cousins though. Need to see more and there's no rush. Schaub wins a Super Bowl this year and the point is moot anyway.
 
Fili said:
TJ Yates is a fine quarterback. No need for Cousins.
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I'm not certain if I believe that, but I get the feeling Gary (and therefore Rick Smith) does.

Short of a "Look who fell into our lap way, way lower than we had them rated" scenario (see Aaron Rodgers), I don't look for a QB to be picked up by the Texans either in free agency, via trade, or earlier than round five of this coming draft.
 
I've talked about Cousins during draft time as a good prospect.

But at the moment, I don't see spending high draft pick for him.

I'm comfortable with the guys we have now.
 
SrslySirius said:
Thread title says future solution. Matt Schaub is 31 years old.
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With the contract the Texans gave him, it sure looks like he's their guy for at least another two years, barring injury (knock on wood).

In the meantime we can look to see whether TJ or Keenum can develop into that next guy.

If Kubiak don't think highly enough of them, the Texans can look for another QB in the next draft. But from reading Kubiak all this time, I really think he's comfortable with the guys he has as well.
 
The Redskins spent a high 4th on him, so I kind of doubt they will accept two 2nds for him now. Trading him creates a hole at backup QB, which they have already needed him once in RG3's first year. I would imagine they want more than that right now.
 
Fiddler said:
Didn't know we had a QB problem?
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It's not a problem... this is just looking into the future as the title says. I'm far from sold on T.J. Yates as the Schaub successor. And I don't have enough Case Keenum/NFL data to make a call one way or another. If Cousins studies under the Shannys for a couple of years, he should be ready to run the Kubiak edition of this offense just fine.

But as someone else said, we've only seen him in live, NFL action for a game and change. Need more data.
 
Dutchrudder said:
The Redskins spent a high 4th on him, so I kind of doubt they will accept two 2nds for him now. Trading him creates a hole at backup QB, which they have already needed him once in RG3's first year. I would imagine they want more than that right now.
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How about a second and that guy with the mullet that we had as a 3rd QB for a short time this season???

Don't forget, they also have Grossman!! :kitten:
 
Either you keep Schaub or find a guy that you really think of as having "it".

Cousins is a good QB but he doesn't truly has that "it" factor.

With teams drafting heavily at the QB position, the next few years will present some good prospect.

Turn some of your picks into future picks and save them for a trade up in another two or three years sounds like a better plan.
 
Texecutioner said:
TJ Yates will never be the starter here. If he does it will be short term until we find a real prospect. Yates is terrible.
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Never say never, especially when he's already done what you say will never be done. :shades:

And besides, he's done a couple of things that Schaub has never done in his career. Play in playoff games, and win a playoff game. Obviously, that's all about to change.

*knocks on wood*
 
Uh, yes please.

That's the guy at Arkansas, right?

Wears #8, too, IIRC. I'm down with him.
 
ObsiWan said:
It's not a problem... this is just looking into the future as the title says. I'm far from sold on T.J. Yates as the Schaub successor. And I don't have enough Case Keenum/NFL data to make a call one way or another. If Cousins studies under the Shannys for a couple of years, he should be ready to run the Kubiak edition of this offense just fine.

But as someone else said, we've only seen him in live, NFL action for a game and change. Need more data.
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This. Yates did an admirable job last year but the guy stares down receivers like there is no tomorrow so let's see if he progressed a bit before annoiting him. Luckily, he should have plenty of time to do so and a few opportunities to get some action in games like the last one since we will beat the Vikings and secure homefield

*does more knocking on wood*
 
It takes guts to change out a starting QB that is doing reasonably well. Harbough took a huge risk by changing out Smith who was having a good season. Even though it appears to be paying off, I just don't see very many coaches doing that including Kubes. If the change at QB doesn't work out, it could cost them their season and their jobs.
 
Dutchrudder said:
The Redskins spent a high 4th on him, so I kind of doubt they will accept two 2nds for him now. Trading him creates a hole at backup QB, which they have already needed him once in RG3's first year. I would imagine they want more than that right now.
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If RG3 doesn't change his game, Cousins will often likely be serving him breakfast in bed.............except on Sundays..........:kitten:
 
Whoever our next QB is, I hope he some scrambling ability. Not RGIII type, but at least enough to get out of the pocket occasionally.
 
One way or the other, we have to get a new starting QB in the next couple of years to get up to speed. Schaub isn't going to last forever.
 
Solution needed immediately at qb, this a good team now. Window will close. Low ceiling with current qb. Don't know if backup is answer. Would love to see opportunities explored. Hell Seattle qb, what a third rd pick? Roll the dice like Seattle and San fran
 
Hervoyel said:
Neither did a bunch of 49er's fans last year when Smith took them to the NFC Championship game. They thought good enough was good enough. Harbaugh thought different and made a change.

Schaub is good enough until Kubiak decides he isn't I guess. I'd have a hard time saying that Schaub was so good that the position was beyond the possibility of upgrading.

I don't think we have that kind of knowledge about Cousins though. Need to see more and there's no rush. Schaub wins a Super Bowl this year and the point is moot anyway.
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Smith was still doing a GOOD job when he got hurt, it just so happened his rookie back up came in and really impressed.
 
Hervoyel said:
Neither did a bunch of 49er's fans last year when Smith took them to the NFC Championship game. They thought good enough was good enough. Harbaugh thought different and made a change.

Schaub is good enough until Kubiak decides he isn't I guess. I'd have a hard time saying that Schaub was so good that the position was beyond the possibility of upgrading.

I don't think we have that kind of knowledge about Cousins though. Need to see more and there's no rush. Schaub wins a Super Bowl this year and the point is moot anyway.
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EllisUnit said:
Smith was still doing a GOOD job when he got hurt, it just so happened his rookie back up came in and really impressed.
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And don't forget that Colin Kaepernick was drafted by Harbaugh before Smith had ever taken a snap for him. Many folks thought Smith was gone at the time Harbaugh was hired, and when he did re-sign, most of those same folks thought he was a one year band-aid (which apparently only turned out to be a half a year or so off).

Chances are if Kaepernick wasn't already on the roster at the end of last season, San Fran wouldn't have used a first or second day pick to find his replacement, and by the same token, who's to say if Gary had someone like Kaepernick on the roster, he might very well be the starter and Schaub would be playing out the last season of his contract as the backup.

Who knows.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
If RG3 doesn't change his game, Cousins will often likely be serving him breakfast in bed.............except on Sundays..........:kitten:
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This is what I was going to post. The way RG3 plays, he's not going to last long.

And I agree with Texecutioner, Yates is terrible.
 
Texecutioner said:
TJ Yates will never be the starter here. If he does it will be short term until we find a real prospect. Yates is terrible.
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Yates is far from terrible. Remember the win against Cincy? That didn't happen on its own. He out played Matt Ryan his first start. He played last year like a rookie. Pretty much how the rookie QBs are playing this year.
 
DBCooper said:
This is what I was going to post. The way RG3 plays, he's not going to last long.

And I agree with Texecutioner, Yates is terrible.
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And dont forget the 3rd and 19 yard run the game we clinched the division. with less than 2 minutes remaining. He did lead us to a victory against Cincy in the play-offs as well. I would give him some credit and a true chance before calling him terrible.
 
why are so many against Yates? He played with a banged up AJ and was a true rookie who started the season as the 3rd qb. Did any of you really think we would win a super bowl? The guy has all the tools to be good and offers things Matt doesn't, stronger arm and MUCH more mobile than Matt ever dreamt of being.

What about clinching our first playoff game without AJ, could Matt have done that...not 100% confident in that one especially with Foster being held in check all game.....

Not saying Yates is the GOAT, but IMO he will be MUCH better than Schaub ever has been or will be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4VOLPxKlis

Still gives me chills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wV-u6Vnr7o

Notice AJ did not have to stop and come back and make a spectacular grab over a defender?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLfGMN9ocVQ

What about on the run?

Sure he will make mistakes in the beginning, but Yates has all the tools to be great in this system
 
amazing80 said:
why are so many against Yates? He played with a banged up AJ and was a true rookie who started the season as the 3rd qb. Did any of you really think we would win a super bowl? The guy has all the tools to be good and offers things Matt doesn't, stronger arm and MUCH more mobile than Matt ever dreamt of being.

What about clinching our first playoff game without AJ, could Matt have done that...not 100% confident in that one especially with Foster being held in check all game.....

Not saying Yates is the GOAT, but IMO he will be MUCH better than Schaub ever has been or will be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4VOLPxKlis

Still gives me chills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wV-u6Vnr7o

Notice AJ did not have to stop and come back and make a spectacular grab over a defender?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLfGMN9ocVQ

What about on the run?

Sure he will make mistakes in the beginning, but Yates has all the tools to be great in this system
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While there were a few who weren't high on him last season, I think most of the concern you see stems from the fact he looked absolutely putrid in preseason this year. I agree it's not much to base an opinion on, but I think it does kind of make you take a step back and want more info.
 
ChampionTexan said:
While there were a few who weren't high on him last season, I think most of the concern you see stems from the fact he looked absolutely putrid in preseason this year. I agree it's not much to base an opinion on, but I think it does kind of make you take a step back and want more info.
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Oh I agree with that, but the team in general sucked in pre-season and the best player in pre-season isn't even on this team any more, Trindon Holliday, so take it with a grain of salt
 
People might want to consider the level of competition Yates faced last year.

In the 8 games he played (5 were against winning teams, 2 of them went to the play-offs.)

The Jags, and the Bengals (twice) had top ten defenses.
And everybody knows about the Ravens.
The Falcons, while did not rank highly on paper, were not without a pretty decent defense.
 
Texecutioner said:
TJ Yates will never be the starter here. If he does it will be short term until we find a real prospect. Yates is terrible.
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I wonder how Tj Yates' stats look compared to Andrew Lucks first 5 games. I'd also like to see how Luck performs in his first play-off game compared to the young tarheel.
 
Fili said:
Yates is far from terrible. Remember the win against Cincy? That didn't happen on its own. He out played Matt Ryan his first start. He played last year like a rookie. Pretty much how the rookie QBs are playing this year.
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But, to play devil's advocate here, the more playing time he got the worse his play got!

On the other hand, to be pragmatic, I believe Yates suffered as the season went on from too much information at once. At first he was relying on his instincts and his knowledge of the paybook of course, but then he has Kubes, Dennison, Knapp, Schaub, Leinart, Garcia, Dellhome, and God knows what other players in his ear 24/7 "coaching him up."

I remember reading all the practice quotes from back then and thinking that these guys are putting too much in his head, and sure enough, week after week his play faltered, in turn causing Kubes to dumb down the playbook because of his own monster.

Of course we'll never really know, but I think it's as sound a theory as any, especially since Yates, at the start, was doing as well, or better than a number of his peers and even Hall of Famers during their first years.

While we're on the QB topic, though. If Vick stays in Philly, maybe we could have a shot at Nick Folles? I would love to see this guy in a Texans' uniform.
 
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