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[thunderkyss]

I'm firmly against giving any HC especially an unproven one a long leash like Kubes has been given, and he still has not done anything to change that opinion.

This I completely agree with.

Which, is why I don't care what happens to Kubiak from here on out. But before this season is over, I'd like to see a director of football operations in the organization.

Just like many believe Kubiak shouldn't have the opportunity to choose a 3rd defensive coordinator, I don't think McNair should have the opportunity to choose a 3rd head coach for the Houston Texans, & I think Rick Smith's choice would come from a very familiar circle of friends, if he were given the opportunity.

 

[TexansSeminole]

If my daughter gets a C+ in trig, it's well short of my goals & expectations. We won't celebrate, or have a parade, but we'll both be happy it wasn't an F.

Perhaps others expect different things from the team.

I was never expected to get a F in anything. Failing was completely unacceptable. A C+ was also not good and not only would there be no celebration, but I would be hearing alot from both of my parents about my lack of effort.

I don't think we, as fans, should be happy simply because we didn't get an F (4-12 type of season), and settle for a C+ (8-8 type of season).

I want A's (12-4 type of seasons) and at worst B's (playoff making seasons).

 

[thunderkyss]

The Texans have got to be super pumped about this game. I'm betting on a LOT of agressive playing by the Texans. This fight with Finnegan has got to have changed the attitude in that locker room into something fierce.

Andre! Andre! Andre!

You know we settled for a field goal on that same drive??

Right after the fight, Andre ejected, Finnegan laughing from the sideline, more pushing & shoving...

We settled for a field goal.

 

[TexansSeminole]

You know we settled for a field goal on that same drive??

Right after the fight, Andre ejected, Finnegan laughing from the sideline, more pushing & shoving...

We settled for a field goal.

We were also running out the clock and did so pretty effectively. We ran something like 9 straight run plays.

 

[Texanmike02]

Schaub throws the ball well in the fourth quarter. I'm speaking
in reference to the WHOLE GAME. If we didn't have Foster surprise,
I doubt Schaub could've done much to win us many games. Schaub
has an o.k. arm when he's protected, but he's not capable of being
THE playmaker like Roethlisberger, Rivers, Manning, Brady, Vick, etc.

Cutler is a far more capable quarterback than Schaub is, stronger
arm, mobility, playmaking ability. Cutler, in my mind, was the MVP of their
game against the Eagles. When has Schaub ever been THE reason
for beating a playoff team?

Stat------ Cutler----- Schaub
Attempt ----292------367
Comp--------180-----236
Comp%------61.6-----64.3
INT----------10------7
TD----------16-------15
Yards-------2311-----2752


So a higher completion percentage a MUCH lower int/pa ratio as well as a much lower int/td ratio?

How exactly does cutler have a better arm that Schaub?

Granted that is for THIS year. Schaub would tell you this hasn't been his best year though. OH... This probably IS Cutler's best year.

Did I mention that schaub is a main cog in an offense that puts up 24 pts a game while cutler's puts up 20.2ppg?

Now go ahead. Tell me they are stats and they mean nothing. There is no actual way to debate who is better... nothing tangible that makes one player better than another. It is all based on who you think is better.

Actually, cutler does wear the number 6. And sixth place is better than eighth place. In fact ignore the rest of what I said Cutler certainly wears a better number than Schaub.

Mike

 

[Texanmike02]

If my daughter gets a C+ in trig, it's well short of my goals & expectations. We won't celebrate, or have a parade, but we'll both be happy it wasn't an F.

The dissapointment on this team is the play of whichever player is supposed to support our Young CBs. Yes our CBs get burned but the Jets game is a perfect example of how bad our safety play is. KEEP HIM IN BOUNDS and the game is over. I was screaming at the DBs to run along the sidelines and make the tackle in the middle of the field... I knew that..

I hope your daughter does well in trig. Our secondary is the equivelant of dropping out of HS and turning into the octomom at the ripe old age of 16.

Mike

 

[Hervoyel]

I just want to see the Texans not be humiliated on national television. Again.

Past that it's all gravy.

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

Schaub throws the ball well in the fourth quarter. I'm speaking
in reference to the WHOLE GAME. If we didn't have Foster surprise,
I doubt Schaub could've done much to win us many games. Schaub
has an o.k. arm when he's protected, but he's not capable of being
THE playmaker like Roethlisberger, Rivers, Manning, Brady, Vick, etc.

Cutler is a far more capable quarterback than Schaub is, stronger
arm, mobility, playmaking ability. Cutler, in my mind, was the MVP of their
game against the Eagles. When has Schaub ever been THE reason
for beating a playoff team?

Well the 4th quarter is the most important, that's when a lot of quarterbacks are measured. Can they lead their team to a comeback win?

Last year we had NO running game and Schaub dominated. THis year our passing game is struggling but our running game is dominating.

No he's not the playmaker that Vick, Brady, Peyton, Big Ben are... but neither is Cutler. But Schaub has taken over games before and been the reason we've won.

Cutler I would argue may have more upside/potential than Schaub but he's not necessarily a better QB at this point. Cutler was their MVP against the Eagles? Well good for him. Schaub has taken over games and been THE reason we've won too.

This season against "playoff teams"? I might consider Schaub's performance against Washington and Kansas City pretty darn good. There were lots of instances were Schaub was THE only reason we were in games last season. Several times he led us down the field to win or tie at the end of the game. No we didn't win some of those... and that's why we have a new kicker

 

[Texanmike02]

Well the 4th quarter is the most important, that's when a lot of quarterbacks are measured. Can they lead their team to a comeback win?

Last year we had NO running game and Schaub dominated. THis year our passing game is struggling but our running game is dominating.

No he's not the playmaker that Vick, Brady, Peyton, Big Ben are... but neither is Cutler. But Schaub has taken over games before and been the reason we've won.

Cutler I would argue may have more upside/potential than Schaub but he's not necessarily a better QB at this point. Cutler was their MVP against the Eagles? Well good for him. Schaub has taken over games and been THE reason we've won too.

This season against "playoff teams"? I might consider Schaub's performance against Washington and Kansas City pretty darn good. There were lots of instances were Schaub was THE only reason we were in games last season. Several times he led us down the field to win or tie at the end of the game. No we didn't win some of those... and that's why we have stricken K(ch)ris Brown from the team.

fixed

 

[Double Barrel]

This I completely agree with.

Which, is why I don't care what happens to Kubiak from here on out. But before this season is over, I'd like to see a director of football operations in the organization.

Just like many believe Kubiak shouldn't have the opportunity to choose a 3rd defensive coordinator, I don't think McNair should have the opportunity to choose a 3rd head coach for the Houston Texans, & I think Rick Smith's choice would come from a very familiar circle of friends, if he were given the opportunity.

I know that you were probably not trying to be humorous, but the bolded made me chuckle a little bit.

A billion dollars buys him as many opportunities to choose head coaches as he wants regardless of what any of us think about it.

 

[Hardcore Texan]

Okay, I have changed my avatar to bring some baby magic.

 

[Trail.Blazr]

Schaub throws the ball well in the fourth quarter. I'm speaking
in reference to the WHOLE GAME. If we didn't have Foster surprise,
I doubt Schaub could've done much to win us many games. Schaub
has an o.k. arm when he's protected, but he's not capable of being
THE playmaker like Roethlisberger, Rivers, Manning, Brady, Vick, etc.

Cutler is a far more capable quarterback than Schaub is, stronger
arm, mobility, playmaking ability. Cutler, in my mind, was the MVP of their
game against the Eagles. When has Schaub ever been THE reason
for beating a playoff team?

While Cutler had a great game, I won't begrudge anyone for this take, I believe Schaub is just as capable of having a good "MVP" type game against the eggles too.

No disrespect to your MVP thoughts in the Chicago/Eagles game, but I thought that Peppers was the biggest man on the field that day... Something, that when compared to anyone on the Texans, I feel less confident in Houston's ability to match. Peppers was INSTRUMENTAL in Vick's lackluster game.


Bottom line, I don't think Houston will have any issues, offensively, to keep pace with what Chicago did last week. It's the Defensive side of the ball that will be key.

 

[NitroGSXR]

K

But still the best season the Texans have ever had. Truly worth celebrating. We could have been 10-6, 11-5, or even 12-4...... that would have been the best we could have done, if certain mistakes & gaffs weren't made, I agree with that.

If we ever win a play-off game, I guarantee you there will be celebrating. We'll all understand it isn't the same as winning a Super Bowl, but there will be celebrating.



Don't put words in his mouth. He didn't say he was "stoked" about going 9-7. We celebrated for having our first winning season. Again, going 10-6, or 11-5, or 12-4 would have been a different celebration all together.

We were happy, and celebrating the fact for the first time ever, this expansion team that isn't an expansion team didn't have a losing season.


Definitely things going on that are difficult to explain. As far as making the same mistakes......

We haven't lost any games this year, because of a missed field goal.
We haven't lost any games because of an untimely fumble at the goal line.
We haven't been plagued by the fumblitus that bit us last year.
We haven't been turnover prone the way we were last year.

I'm assuming you're talking about the last three games we lost.
Aj kicking the ball to a Chargers defender.....
Quin batting the ball to a Jags receivers hands...
Then our defense just not being able to play a prevent defense.....

similarities, I agree, but nothing as bad as last year. We couldn't get out of our way last year. This year, seems like we're taking a slow it down, don't get too excited approach. We aren't making the number of mistakes we did last year, & we're also better in the redzone than we were last year. Last year, no problem moving the ball between the 20s, stumble in the redzone. This year, stumble in the redzone..... if we manage to get there.

If you take the problems we're having this year, and make yourself believe they are the exact same problems we struggled with last year, then yes. There would be some validation there.

However, if you look at today's problems & acknowledge they are not the same as last year, the validation isn't really there.

Not at all. The Texans season wasn't over until later that afternoon.

Imagine we lost that game.... Then the Jet's lost their game.... The Steelers would have got the play-off berth & you'd be bitching because we didn't win the game you're trying to pass of as meaningless now.

nononono... it was a GREAT afternoon seeing the Steelers get eliminated and our hopes ALIVE... it wasn't until that LATE EVENING after the Bungles got blown out...

Man... what a day of highs and lows...

 

[houstonspartan]

This I completely agree with.

Which, is why I don't care what happens to Kubiak from here on out. But before this season is over, I'd like to see a director of football operations in the organization.

Just like many believe Kubiak shouldn't have the opportunity to choose a 3rd defensive coordinator, I don't think McNair should have the opportunity to choose a 3rd head coach for the Houston Texans, & I think Rick Smith's choice would come from a very familiar circle of friends, if he were given the opportunity.

lol. You are not a season ticket holder. No way in hell.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

I just want to see the Texans not be humiliated on national television. Again.

Past that it's all gravy.

I'm trying to stay positive. But if you really want to be sure that you don't have to be exposed to that again, you might consider cooking up an additional batch of gravy to throw at the TV..........just in case.

Pass the gravy, please.............

 

[fiasco west]

I just want to see the Texans not be humiliated on national television. Again.

Past that it's all gravy.

Hopefully it goes something like our last Thurs. Night game. Also though I'm just hoping they don't get embarrassed.

 

[Surreal McCoy]

I know that you were probably not trying to be humorous, but the bolded made me chuckle a little bit.

A billion dollars buys him as many opportunities to choose head coaches as he wants regardless of what any of us think about it.

But don't you see, he doesn't care about winning. All he cares about is if the stadium is sold out and his blue blazer!

 

[Lucky]

...but we'll both be happy it wasn't an F.

That's great. But, I say it's time to bring in the A team.

 

[thunderkyss]

lol. You are not a season ticket holder. No way in hell.

I guess you would be happy if McNair decides to give Marinelli another shot?

Regardless who your favorite is for the next head coach, the chances that McNair grabs that guy.... is close to nill..... even though it sounds like a good deal..... too good to be true..... a no brainer..... Houston's next coach won't be who you think it should be...... chances are.

 

[Texecutioner]

I guess you would be happy if McNair decides to give Marinelli another shot?

Regardless who your favorite is for the next head coach, the chances that McNair grabs that guy.... is close to nill..... even though it sounds like a good deal..... too good to be true..... a no brainer..... Houston's next coach won't be who you think it should be...... chances are.

Wasn't it just two weeks ago that you said that Marinelli shouldn't have been fired after going 0-16? Lol!

 

[thunderkyss]

Wasn't it just two weeks ago that you said that Marinelli shouldn't have been fired after going 0-16? Lol!

& I'll say it again today.

lol.

I won't have a problem if a Mike Holmgren, or Bill Parcells guy says Marinelli should be our new head coach.

If Bob McNair says it, or Rick Smith..... I'll have a problem.

 

[Lucky]

T If the Texans drop this game in Philly, they would have a 5-7 record after 12 game for the 4th consecutive season.

Groundhog Day starring Gary Kubiak!

I've seen this movie. Time to change the channel.

 

[houstonspartan]

& I'll say it again today.

lol.

I won't have a problem if a Mike Holmgren, or Bill Parcells guy says Marinelli should be our new head coach.

If Bob McNair says it, or Rick Smith..... I'll have a problem.

Again: No way are you a Houston Texans season ticket holder.

No.

Freaking.

Way.

You like to lose. Those who spend money on NFL games don't rationalize losing like you do.

 

[thunderkyss]

Again: No way are you a Houston Texans season ticket holder.

No.

Freaking.

Way.

You like to lose. Those who spend money on NFL games don't rationalize losing like you do.

How do you get that out of the two posts you replied to?

In both posts, I say McNair isn't qualified to hire a third head coach, & should find someone who is.

As a matter of fact, in the first post, I'm saying Kubiak has more influence than a head coach should.

 

[wagonhed]

He probably got it from the thousands of other posts where you do exactly what he said you do.

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

Welp... at least it wasn't a blowout...

 

[NitroGSXR]

Welp... at least it wasn't a blowout...

Only cause the Eagles couldn't hold onto easy TD passes. Even Glover Quin had a TD pass phantomlike defensed.

 

[houstonspartan]

He probably got it from the thousands of other posts where you do exactly what he said you do.

LOL!!!

Thanks. I was about to reply and say the same thing, but you beat me to it.

 

[wagonhed]

LOL!!!

Thanks. I was about to reply and say the same thing, but you beat me to it.

lol, no problem. :mariopalm:

 

[scourge]

I agree with this completely. The points our offense can put up is often negated by the points we allow the other team to put up.

.....

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

The points our offense can put up is often negated by the points we allow the other team to put up.

.....

That has never happened in a game we won... only in games we lose.

 

[thunderkyss]

He probably got it from the thousands of other posts where you do exactly what he said you do.

find one where I rationalize losing.

& since there are thousands, it should be easy to find one where I explicitly rationalize losing....

don't come with a post where you have to infer my love of losing.