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Late Poll - Pick #25

Who do Texans take?

  • Matthew Golden WR

  • Josh Simmons OT

  • Grey Zabel IOL

  • Derrick Harmon DL

  • Walter Nolan DL

  • Tyler Booker IOL

  • Emeka Egbula WR

  • Josh Conerly Jr OT

  • Luther Burden WR

  • Donovan Jackson IOL

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Texansphan

Texansphan

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What would the HTMB draft season be without a Texansphan poll? :splits:
Only 8 days from the draft so y'all should have your fav picked out by now.
If your guy is not there, go ahead and post him up.
If you think it's a trade, post up your idea.
One choice per customer.
 
If Banks falls to 25, he’s the choice imho. I doubt he falls that far, so I choose Booker. He’s a DeMeco kind of guy. From what I’ve been told, Nick is only a file clerk and does what the coach wants, coach wants a Will Anderson for the offense, and he finds it in Booker.
 
Why Jackson…..b/c he’s a stud LG who’s pretty much played that position since entering Ohio State. Secondly, he’s capable of moving to LT in a pinch and perform well enough in 8 games for the Buckeyes to hoist the Championship Trophy.

Most of the other options would be primary OT’s that we feel could move inside….they’re not battle tested.
 
I am going Conerly as I think he is the best left tackle on the board. I think he could survive well at left guard this season but I'm scratching an itch that Nick is going to trade up in round two to get his future left guard.
Two round threes and an extra round 2 and 4 next year could light up the crowd. The McNairs love excitement.
Too many variables remain and I think they will remain until Nick pulls the trigger either at 25 or with a trade. I can see him just as easily trading down and still getting his guy. It is also hard for me to ignore Egbuka.
 
badboy said:
I am going Conerly as I think he is the best left tackle on the board. I think he could survive well at left guard this season but I'm scratching an itch that Nick is going to trade up in round two to get his future left guard.
Two round threes and an extra round 2 and 4 next year could light up the crowd. The McNairs love excitement.
Too many variables remain and I think they will remain until Nick pulls the trigger either at 25 or with a trade. I can see him just as easily trading down and still getting his guy. It is also hard for me to ignore Egbuka.
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The only problem I have with taking a rookie LT is who you gonna put beside him at LG?
Draft your LG of the future now to train under one of the vet LTs they brought in then draft your LT next season or buy the best available in FA.
 
Texansphan said:
The only problem I have with taking a rookie LT is who you gonna put beside him at LG?
Draft your LG of the future now to train under one of the vet LTs they brought in then draft your LT next season or buy the best available in FA.
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I'm thinking Conerly can play LG next yr at a higher level than Howard did last yr. Then move Conerly to LT in 2026.
 
Of the choices on that poll I chose Jackson. Set and forget starter as long as he wants to play in the NFL.

Draft season is interesting, certain players get a lot of traction and others don’t. Hard to get a firm read on what’s smoke and what is not. I could see Conerly being the pick too out of those options but as much buzz as he’s getting hard to say he’ll be there.

Meanwhile rock solid Jackson I haven’t been hearing much buzz about. Just a clean solid prospect.

I do think OL will be the pick given the options after round 1 relative to WR/DT/RB. Not as deep a class as the Texans other positions I think they’ll target. Sure some guys day 2/3 will hit, but harder to project. Give Caley and Popovich pick 25. Put them in position to succeed!
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm thinking Conerly can play LG next yr at a higher level than Howard did last yr. Then move Conerly to LT in 2026.
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I'm thinking you mean this coming season?
I can run with that.
I think we need OL most urgently and it will be our first pick.
Kelvin Banks obviously is the best available that could possibly be a target for Texans with a small trade up.
Josh Simmons has the talent but also an injury query.
Grey Zabel is in the sweet spot for Texans if they want to sit pat and sweat it out.
Tyler Booker is also a nice prospect for IOL and could very well be on Texans radar and also in the sweet spot.
Josh Conerly is also on their radar for sure and also in the sweet spot.
Donovan Jackson is also a nice prospect but could be viewed as a bit of a reach. For him I would like to see a small trade back staying in the first round and take him.
The only guy I am a bit dubious about is Simmons with the injury cloud, but otherwise these are my thoughts.
They might go WR at #25 and take a swing at OL in the second but they better be sure about their guy in the second as the pickings definitely get slimmer.
 
Texansphan said:
I'm thinking you mean this coming season?
I can run with that.
I think we need OL most urgently and it will be our first pick.
Kelvin Banks obviously is the best available that could possibly be a target for Texans with a small trade up.
Josh Simmons has the talent but also an injury query.
Grey Zabel is in the sweet spot for Texans if they want to sit pat and sweat it out.
Tyler Booker is also a nice prospect for IOL and could very well be on Texans radar and also in the sweet spot.
Josh Conerly is also on their radar for sure and also in the sweet spot.
Donovan Jackson is also a nice prospect but could be viewed as a bit of a reach. For him I would like to see a small trade back staying in the first round and take him.
The only guy I am a bit dubious about is Simmons with the injury cloud, but otherwise these are my thoughts.
They might go WR at #25 and take a swing at OL in the second but they better be sure about their guy in the second as the pickings definitely get slimmer.
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If they like Banks they probably will have to trade up to get him

If they like Jackson or any of the other guys you listed, I hope they don't screw around, trade down and lose their guy. Quality over quantity.
 
steelbtexan said:
If they like Banks they probably will have to trade up to get him

If they like Jackson or any of the other guys you listed, I hope they don't screw around, trade down and lose their guy. Quality over quantity.
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Agree.
If they try and sit pat and hope Banks falls into their lap, they better have a good backup plan because I believe Vikings will take OL also and they pick just before us.
Could be sweaty palms down at Kirby in this one. Thankfully we have a pretty savvy GM.
Fortunately there is a nice range of players available for Texans at #25 - and not just OL.
 
In a perfect world, i’d love to see Texans trade down round 1 and trade up with their second. Get two picks in the “Lassiter” range. I think similar to last year, not a lot of difference in talent picks 20-45 range.

Easier said than done obviously.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
In a perfect world, i’d love to see Texans trade down round 1 and trade up with their second. Get two picks in the “Lassiter” range. I think similar to last year, not a lot of difference in talent picks 20-45 range.

Easier said than done obviously.
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I'd like to see a small move down the board but stay in the first but the chances of it happening are small.
If it does happen, then I hope they take Donovan Jackson. I believe Zabel might go to the Vikings.
 
Texansphan said:
Agree.
If they try and sit pat and hope Banks falls into their lap, they better have a good backup plan because I believe Vikings will take OL also and they pick just before us.
Could be sweaty palms down at Kirby in this one. Thankfully we have a pretty savvy GM.
Fortunately there is a nice range of players available for Texans at #25 - and not just OL.
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Problem is the Vikings only have 4 picks and are very likely to trade down with a team like the Chiefs who would pick Conerly just ahead of the Texans. The Vikings need more picks.
 
steelbtexan said:
Problem is the Vikings only have 4 picks and are very likely to trade down with a team like the Chiefs who would pick Conerly just ahead of the Texans. The Vikings need more picks.
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True.
Either way, the chance a choice OL guy gets taken just before us is high.
And if we are aware of it, then you can bet NC is too so a small trade up may be on the cards if they are determined to go OL
 
Texansphan said:
True.
Either way, the chance a choice OL guy gets taken just before us is high.
And if we are aware of it, then you can bet NC is too so a small trade up may be on the cards if they are determined to go OL
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I do think one of Conerly, Zabel, Jackson will be there at 1-25, if they aren't and maybe even if they are, a trade down to say 2-35 or 40 and picking Ratledge plus extra picks is appealing to me. Banks is most likely going to be a trade up guy, as well as Conerly. LT's carry a lot of value and teams picking at the bottom of the 1st, top of the 2nd like the Pats, Chiefs will be willing to trade up ahead of the Texans for a LT.
 
steelbtexan said:
I do think one of Conerly, Zabel, Jackson will be there at 1-25, if they aren't and maybe even if they are, a trade down to say 2-35 or 40 and picking Ratledge plus extra picks is appealing to me. Banks is most likely going to be a trade up guy, as well as Conerly. LT's carry a lot of value and teams picking at the bottom of the 1st, top of the 2nd like the Pats, Chiefs will be willing to trade up ahead of the Texans for a LT.
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Yeah the Pats are picking early so will have two bites of the cherry as far as quality OL goes.
That will deplete the pool somewhat and possibly make the draft market tight for OL.
 
Let’s say there’s an early run on OL….what’s next? If there’s a run on OL, what if super stud SS, Nick Emmanwori (South Carolina) slips to 25 as an option? Me, I could run that pick up but Ryans would probably trip my arse, then step on my head as he runs up to deliver the pick.
 
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OptimisticTexan said:
Let’s say there’s an early run on OL….what’s next? If there’s a run on OL, what if super stud SS, Nick Emmanwori (South Carolina) slips to 25 as an option? Me, I could run that pick up but Ryans would probably trip my arse, then step on head as he runs up to deliver the pick.
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I'm hoping Jihad Campbell slides if there is a run on OL
 
steelbtexan said:
Better than all of these guys.
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I'll give you Ingram, maybe, but Tomlinson is a 10 yr vet, a 1st round pick, a pro bowler, who has started for every team played for. It'll be hard for any rookie to beat him out to start the season, even Banks or Jackson.

Ingram was a full time starter in '22 and '23, before being benched mid-season in '24. He could be beat out for the starting role.
 
I don't remember a year where our needs were so many and so important to the team, and at the same time, so unattainable .... I don't think we can get there from here ! I feel like we're walking into the OK Corral .... armed with a pen knife !
 
Number19 said:
I'll give you Ingram, maybe, but Tomlinson is a 10 yr vet, a 1st round pick, a pro bowler, who has started for every team played for. It'll be hard for any rookie to beat him out to start the season, even Banks or Jackson.

Ingram was a full time starter in '22 and '23, before being benched mid-season in '24. He could be beat out for the starting role.
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I'm not sure Fisher is all of that to begin with. Tomlinson had a yr like Mason did last yr and that's not good enough, although it's miles better than Green. Put Conerly at LG, Patterson at C and let Scruggs/Tomlinson/Brown/Ingram etc... fight it out on the right side.

I mean they're talking about drafting Booker (Who I'm not high on) and plugging him in at LG. Is Booker any better than a 10 yr vet like Tomlinson on the left side?
 
Texansphan said:
The only problem I have with taking a rookie LT is who you gonna put beside him at LG?
Draft your LG of the future now to train under one of the vet LTs they brought in then draft your LT next season or buy the best available in FA.
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Franchise left guards are easier to find than franchise left tackles so get the tackle now who can also play left guard if necessary. Whoever needs to be able to beat out Howard. Banks, Conerly and Grant have all been evaluated to be able to play inside. Heck, Zabel may be able to do that.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Let’s say there’s an early run on OL….what’s next? If there’s a run on OL, what if super stud SS, Nick Emmanwori (South Carolina) slips to 25 as an option? Me, I could run that pick up but Ryans would probably trip my arse, then step on head as he runs up to deliver the pick.
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My outside the box guy is Jahdee Baron. However, with the recent extension of Pitre that long shot seems like a no shot. I’d also put your guy very close to no shot.

Just as a reminder, the assignment is to choose the player you think the Texans will select, not who you would select if you were the GM.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Let’s say there’s an early run on OL….what’s next? If there’s a run on OL, what if super stud SS, Nick Emmanwori (South Carolina) slips to 25 as an option? Me, I could run that pick up but Ryans would probably trip my arse, then step on head as he runs up to deliver the pick.
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Nah, they signed CGJ for a reason.

Now I could see Caserio picking a guy like Harmon or Nolen at 1-25.
 
Texansphan said:
I'd like to see a small move down the board but stay in the first but the chances of it happening are small.
If it does happen, then I hope they take Donovan Jackson. I believe Zabel might go to the Vikings.
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I actually think Zabel is going to go to Seattle. There’s a lot of buzz about him being there. The only way I could see him not being the pick is if Golden or Tet falls to their pick.
 
justmy2cents said:
I don't remember a year where our needs were so many and so important to the team, and at the same time, so unattainable .... I don't think we can get there from here ! I feel like we're walking into the OK Corral .... armed with a pen knife !
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Everything they need is attainable it's really just a matter of how much 2026 draft capital you would have to give up to get the guys you want. They have the extra picks to do this. Example: Say you made your 1st four picks and in this deep RB class a guy like Sampson fell to the 4th rd, would you be willing to give up the 2026 4th that you got in the Redskins trade and 5-166 to move up and get a stud RB like Dylan Sampson in the 4th because you know he's a 3rd rd or better talent and better that any RB that you'll be drafting in the 4th rd in the 2026 draft.
 
justmy2cents said:
I don't remember a year where our needs were so many and so important to the team, and at the same time, so unattainable .... I don't think we can get there from here ! I feel like we're walking into the OK Corral .... armed with a pen knife !
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I don't think the team sees their needs the same as we do
 
Given the list of players in this poll, I chose Nolen. He's a top 10-15 player & would be the final piece (imo) that would make our defense a championship defense. And as we all know, defense wins championships.

I believe there will be some top o'line prospects available at #25, but based upon this quote from Caserio in the screenshot below, I'm of the opinion that they have their sights set on some o'linemen in the second & possibly third rounds.

I really like Charles Grant as our future LT. He could sit for a year & iron out the wrinkles in his game while learning from Cam Robinson, before being inserted as the starting LT in 2026. I think we can snag him in the second round. Keep in mind that all of our picks are late round picks this year. So, a projected 3rd round player will have to be taken in the second round if we really want him.

I'm also in love with Wyatt Milum as our future LG. He's listed as an OT, but his arms are considered too short for the tackle position. I believe getting him will require us to trade up into the second round.

If however, we're unable to get Milum as our LG, I could also see us taking a run at Jonah Savaiinaea, Jack Nelson or even Hayden Conner (in the later rounds). Then of course, there's Tate Ratledge if they decide to shift Scruggs over to LG. My point is, there are quite a few o'linemen that could be taken in the second & third rounds that would fill our needs.

That means taking the BPA at pick #25 could be the Texan's plan this year. Then again, it is smoke season for the NFL draft.

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Hottoddie said:
Given the list of players in this poll, I chose Nolen. He's a top 10-15 player & would be the final piece (imo) that would make our defense a championship defense. And as we all know, defense wins championships.

I believe there will be some top o'line prospects available at #25, but based upon this quote from Caserio in the screenshot below, I'm of the opinion that they have their sights set on some o'linemen in the second & possibly third rounds.

I really like Charles Grant as our future LT. He could sit for a year & iron out the wrinkles in his game while learning from Cam Robinson, before being inserted as the starting LT in 2026. I think we can snag him in the second round. Keep in mind that all of our picks are late round picks this year. So, a projected 3rd round player will have to be taken in the second round if we really want him.

I'm also in love with Wyatt Milum as our future LG. He's listed as an OT, but his arms are considered too short for the tackle position. I believe getting him will require us to trade up into the second round.

If however, we're unable to get Milum as our LG, I could also see us taking a run at Jonah Savaiinaea, Jack Nelson or even Hayden Conner (in the later rounds). Then of course, there's Tate Ratledge if they decide to shift Scruggs over to LG. My point is, there are quite a few o'linemen that could be taken in the second & third rounds that would fill our needs.

That means taking the BPA at pick #25 could be the Texan's plan this year. Then again, it is smoke season for the NFL draft.

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Caserio may be just throwing up a smokescreen. But if true, they may go BPA.
 
If y’all think Nick ain’t telling the tallest of tales regarding BPA…y’all be smokin too much wampum in the peace pipe
 
Hottoddie said:
Given the list of players in this poll, I chose Nolen. He's a top 10-15 player & would be the final piece (imo) that would make our defense a championship defense. And as we all know, defense wins championships.

I believe there will be some top o'line prospects available at #25, but based upon this quote from Caserio in the screenshot below, I'm of the opinion that they have their sights set on some o'linemen in the second & possibly third rounds.

I really like Charles Grant as our future LT. He could sit for a year & iron out the wrinkles in his game while learning from Cam Robinson, before being inserted as the starting LT in 2026. I think we can snag him in the second round. Keep in mind that all of our picks are late round picks this year. So, a projected 3rd round player will have to be taken in the second round if we really want him.

I'm also in love with Wyatt Milum as our future LG. He's listed as an OT, but his arms are considered too short for the tackle position. I believe getting him will require us to trade up into the second round.

If however, we're unable to get Milum as our LG, I could also see us taking a run at Jonah Savaiinaea, Jack Nelson or even Hayden Conner (in the later rounds). Then of course, there's Tate Ratledge if they decide to shift Scruggs over to LG. My point is, there are quite a few o'linemen that could be taken in the second & third rounds that would fill our needs.

That means taking the BPA at pick #25 could be the Texan's plan this year. Then again, it is smoke season for the NFL draft.

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I said this in another thread, but you need to listen to the whole interview. The Texans "BPA board" is based on how they fit into roles on the team, so the concept of need is already baked into the board. I interpret his comments as the possibility of taking a WR in the first round if they are rated higher than the available guards/tackles that could be taken later in the draft. What you won't see them do is take a CB/S in the first round regardless of the "true BPA" because that players role on the team is negligent, in that case I would expect Caserio to trade down into a range where talent meets the needs/roles.
 
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