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Texans 2017 Schedule
- Thread starter gwallaia
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Didn't we just play @New England? shouldn't that be a home game?
And Chiefs would be away, Raiders would be at home, whichever we get... probably Chiefs
TexansBull
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Those are some strong defensive teams. At least we get two bye weeks with the Browns.
The 2017NFL draft would be the 82nd annual meeting of National Football League (NFL) franchises to select newly eligible football players. It is scheduled to be held in Philadelphia from April 27 to 29, returning to the city for the first time since 1961
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side note: 1961 was the draft of Bob Lilly, Mike Ditka, Herb Adderly and Jimmy Johnson
I think they have Afc east & west backwards
It's two different rotations.
We rotate playing each AFC division year after year, West, North, East, West, North East, and so on. Then for each whole division we play, we play the remaining two divisions based on where we and they finish the previous year. So if it's a year we play all of the North, we'll play a home/away against the West and East. The second rotation is what you're seeing, in that for every time the first rotation cycles (every three yrs) the home and away for the remaining two also flip.
We played the whole West this year, and so home against last yrs first place North team (Cin.) and away against last yrs first place East team (NE).
Three yrs ago we played the whole West also, but home against the East team and away against the North team. The latter two flipped.
Three yrs from now when we play the whole West again it will of course flip again also, home against the North and away against the East.
So 2017 we are playing the North and should play the first place West and first place South?
oops
dammit, I wanted to edit before anyone saw... was looking at nfc while I typed
The NFL schedule hasn't been built that way for a long time.
Now, the only way the "good" teams have tougher schedules than "bad" teams are those two games against conference teams that finished in the same relative division slot.
So this year, the only difference between our schedule (not accounting home & away) is that we finished first, so we had to play the Patriots & the Bengals. Where the Jaguars had to play the Bills & Ravens. As you can see, the "good" team, Cincinnati, wasn't as good as the bad team, Baltimore, so the Jags kinda got screwed on that one & we lucked out.
Other than that, the Jaguars had to play the AFCWest & NFCNorth, just like we did. They played the Colts & Titans twice, just like we did.
The Pencil Neck
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No. This is why the whole "First place schedule" thing is mostly BS. The difference between a first place team and a fourth place team in the same division is 2 games (excluding the 2 games where they play each other.)
texanhead08
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bigmck
Rookie
It would seem that way but I see another source that shows NE as away.
http://profootballschedules.com/2017-houston-texans-schedule
Nope. I always predict 10-6. It's what I do.
Nope. I always predict 10-6. It's what I do.
Allow me to try again ...
http://www.texanstalk.com/threads/texans-2017-schedule.111482/#post-2670746
It's also why, imo, division champs should earn a playoff spot. it's easy to say the Broncos would have won 10 games had they played in the AFCSouth. But you really don't know. They lost to Tennessee. They lost to KC, twice.
Good teams become avg teams or worse, one season to the next. bad or avg teams become good teams, one year to the next.
The way the schedule is now is about as "even" & "fair as it gets, then you throw in the wild cards... well, one more wild card would be cool.
So next year we play the whole AFCNorth, and the AFCEast opponent at Home, the AFCWest opponent away.
Three years ago we should have played the whole AFCNorth and the AFCEast opponent away, the AFCWest opponent at home?
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We did
Nope.
Here's 2010-2017...
-------whole--whole---H-----A
2010 - afcW - nfcE - afcN - afcE
2011 - afcN - nfcS - afcW - afcE
2012 - afcE - nfcN - afcN - afcW
2013 - afcW - nfcW - afcE - afcN
2014 - afcN - nfcE - afcE - afcW
2015 - afcE - nfcS - afcW - afcN
2016 - afcW - nfcN - afcN - afcE
2017 - afcN - nfcW - afcW - afcE
... the pattern is in there.
TexansBull
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Put a winning product that fans can buy into on the field and the problem solves itself.
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pff we have been winning the past 3 years .....yet there are far to many patriots cowboys and Steelers fans LIVING IN HOUSTON !!!! makes me sick
is it common now for us to expect 9-7 10-6 every year now COME on PEEPS !!!!
TexansBull
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That is mostly due to playing in a weak division. We want to be contenders for the Super bowl not just have division banners. We regularly lose and aren't even competitive against teams like NE or Denver or teams that win Super bowls. The QB carousel has been going on too long and isn't going to get us to the SB. Losing in the first round of the playoffs year after year isn't a success. Look at how many people are checking out because we aren't satisfied with being slightly better than average.
We've been to the playoffs three times. We've lost in the first round once.
TexansBull
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Thank god for Cincinnati...the one team we own. Sorry I was shaving when writing that and had visions of other Houston sports teams too. Some of us have been suffering a long time.
Point stands that we are better than average but not good enough to play with contenders. Some of us want to win the Super bowl and don't want to only fly division banners. That has been Houston football forever.
That's BS. I'm sure all of us would prefer a Super Bowl Championship.
TexansBull
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I must not be communicating this well so let me try another way...
Some people get happy and call it a success making it to the playoffs and want to have a parade. Others are tired of it and get tired of taking advantage of a weak division. Our definition if winning is the super bowl or bust. It's the measure if success we are talking about and what people get excited about.
So if you scan the different threads about the playoffs people are hoping we don't play NE and someone take them out. Same for KC. Probably same for Pitt. Hoping someone else gets lucky and takes them out. We aren't a serious playoff contender. We need to be a feared team not the other way around. That's been the status quo and some are happy about it. Not me.
A lot of fans feel that way and have stopped going to games or even watching on TV because they feel the same way.
fan- short for fanatic. So no, fanatics haven't
Mr teX
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Then you and everyone else who have this elite sense of fandom may as well stop watching sports all together............Unless you're a UCONN women's basketball or Bama football fan that is. Statistically the odds are against you that you'll win any major championship in any given sport and they aren't much better if you just want to be considered a contender either.
Don't poo poo on anyone else's fandom b/c you can only get excited at the possibility of us being considered "real" contenders by the talking heads at ESPN/NFL Network. You guys still don't realize how much luck and chance have to do with winning it all any given year.
Have you met these Steeler fans? Most have never stepped foot in the city of Pittsburgh. Couldn't name the Three Rivers if you spotted them the Monongahela and the Allegheny. Ask them why they're Steeler fans and they'll tell you, "I like the uniform colors."
satisfied? No... but it's better than being a Browns fan
TexansBull
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There's the level the Texans are on with Cincinnati, Detroit, Colts, Chargers, etc that is good enough to get into the playoffs but not good enough to win the whole thing and look silly against elite teams. Yay for us.
We aren't the Pitt, Baltimore or NE who are in the conversations for being winners all the time. That expect to win the Super bowl year end year out. Heck, we make fun of Dallas but look at them now.
I am just saying fans are tired of the same old same old. 9-7. 8-8. Playoffs. Yay we won a game. Boom we get smashed. Qb carousel. Some have been dealing with this going back to the Oilers. Always the bridesmaid never the bride.
There's nothing wrong with the lot of you who fly your flags for a 9-7 season and say we won the division and a game in the playoffs. Success! If that's your definition congrats.
Some of us want more. It's not elite sense of fandom. It's how other fans of other teams actually act and expect. Dallas, New England, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay. They want it all. Maybe we could learn something from them. Maybe division banners don't mean anything to them. Maybe that's not meeting the expectations but the expectation is to be at the minimum to be in the Super bowl. There is nothing wrong with that.
We aren't the Pitt, Baltimore or NE who are in the conversations for being winners all the time. That expect to win the Super bowl year end year out. Heck, we make fun of Dallas but look at them now.
I am just saying fans are tired of the same old same old. 9-7. 8-8. Playoffs. Yay we won a game. Boom we get smashed. Qb carousel. Some have been dealing with this going back to the Oilers. Always the bridesmaid never the bride.
There's nothing wrong with the lot of you who fly your flags for a 9-7 season and say we won the division and a game in the playoffs. Success! If that's your definition congrats.
Some of us want more. It's not elite sense of fandom. It's how other fans of other teams actually act and expect. Dallas, New England, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay. They want it all. Maybe we could learn something from them. Maybe division banners don't mean anything to them. Maybe that's not meeting the expectations but the expectation is to be at the minimum to be in the Super bowl. There is nothing wrong with that.
You really think that anyone doesn't want a ring?
Do you have a higher horse than everyone else because you're not satisfied?
All of us want the Texans to get to the superb owl game... just most of us don't b!tch and whine constantly about the failure to do so. We go into every year hoping that this is the year, and when it's not we wait for the next year to do it all again. Every teams fanbase wants a ring, even the Browns. Do you remember when Pittsburgh, New England, Green Bay and Baltimore were going thru season after season of losing big?
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I guarantee you those Steelers... the players & coaches are happy as all get out that they won their division. If you asked them right now if their season was a success they'd say, "Heck yeah, so far."
Can't win the Super Bowl without getting in the playoffs.
It's only some fans who look at our situation & say, "Whelp, we'll probably lose the next game." The rest of us appreciate the chance to play for a championship. We might win the next three games, who knows? We shouldn't have won 9 games so far, but we did. Don't know how... but we did. I don't know how we're going to beat KC or Oakland wild card weekend, but I'm not going to give up on the possibility that we might.
& if we beat them, who knows what's going to happen against New England. Speaking of which, I'm sure every team in the playoffs would like to avoid New England as long as possible. That's just not being a dumbass.
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TexansBull
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I don't think it's coming from a position of having a high horse. Like I said: There is nothing wrong celebrating a division banner. You do your thing.
But what I am saying is some fans want more and lose excitement for the game since 8-8 or 9-7 are the same old same old. Still fans but no excitement for the team. Beating the same old teams and losing to the really good ones. Don't be mad at them for wanting more. There is nothing wrong with that or saying another division banner. Whoop de freaking do.
And it's not the constant whining and bitching from me. Actually I am new to the game.
I just understand the argument that people have that can't get excited for this team if division banners are going to be the measure of success. People want to win at the next level and be elite. What is wrong with that? And I never said noone wanted that. I just said that some.people.are tired of the dame old same old and want more and aren't satisfied with the same old same old and lose excitement or passion.
The browns current situation is winning more than one game. We were there. Let's have a winning season. Let's make the playoffs. Let's win the division. What's next? We have been the same team for last 5-4 years without getting any better. We need to get to the next level instead of one and done. Nothing wrong with saying that.
ArmyBengal
Retired Army Medical NCO
My son and I will certainly be at the Texans/Bengals game in 2017 and love that we keep getting to see that matchup.
We have this same discussion on our Bengals forum. Happy to get to the playoffs and contend, hate being one and done.
I like to think all teams want to find a way to get over the hump. Some do, some don't.
Winning helps an awful lot in this category. Many fans of other teams living in your neck of the woods ??
Bet they all come from teams that consistently contend. Try living close to the one of those cities.
Want to take a guess how many Steelers fans show up in Cincinnati for that game ?? Crazy irritating.
I think perspective is a huge as well. Take my beloved Bengals and the 1990's.
Up until this season (thank you Browns) there wasn't a worse sports franchise over a decade period than the Bengals.
Some changes are made (insert Marvin Lewis) and the team starts playing better. Heck they start by not having a losing season.
Know what it felt like to go 9-7 ?? MASSIVE SUCCESS !!! Forward to 2016.
6 straight seasons of 1 and done in the playoffs ?? Not feeling the success all that much, but it really is successful.
Only 12 teams make it to the playoff with only 1 winning it all. Duh...
I'll take being in the mix at the end of the year and falling short over not being in the mix at all. You have to be in it to win it.
That being said, the expectation is still winning the Super Bowl and we as fans simply hope our organization is making the right move to do so.
We have this same discussion on our Bengals forum. Happy to get to the playoffs and contend, hate being one and done.
I like to think all teams want to find a way to get over the hump. Some do, some don't.
Winning helps an awful lot in this category. Many fans of other teams living in your neck of the woods ??
Bet they all come from teams that consistently contend. Try living close to the one of those cities.
Want to take a guess how many Steelers fans show up in Cincinnati for that game ?? Crazy irritating.
I think perspective is a huge as well. Take my beloved Bengals and the 1990's.
Up until this season (thank you Browns) there wasn't a worse sports franchise over a decade period than the Bengals.
Some changes are made (insert Marvin Lewis) and the team starts playing better. Heck they start by not having a losing season.
Know what it felt like to go 9-7 ?? MASSIVE SUCCESS !!! Forward to 2016.
6 straight seasons of 1 and done in the playoffs ?? Not feeling the success all that much, but it really is successful.
Only 12 teams make it to the playoff with only 1 winning it all. Duh...
I'll take being in the mix at the end of the year and falling short over not being in the mix at all. You have to be in it to win it.
That being said, the expectation is still winning the Super Bowl and we as fans simply hope our organization is making the right move to do so.
TexansBull
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Before Brady New England was what Cleveland is now, Baltimore didn't move from Cleveland because they were a great team... they were pretty much one and done if that before, Green Bay went from late '60's until Favre without winning, Pittsburgh never won squat prior to Noll.
This is the problem I've got with what you're saying.
Nobody is using division banners as "the" measure of success.
However, if you're going to tell me that Rick Smith is garbage, I'm going to point to those division banners. Sorry, but they mean something. They're not the end all be all, but they're not totally meaningless either.
Somewhere in between.
How many times did John Harbaugh win those pesky banners before winning the Super Bowl? I like that Flacco went to the play offs (whether they won the division or not, I really don't know) from his rookie year through to their Super Bowl win.
I'm not much of a *****(er), but I'll be upset if they don't win the Super Bowl, that's not going to stop me from recognizing when they did accomplish something.
To be clear... we're not trying to get over the "one & done" hump. Two of our previous three playoff appearances have gone on to the divisional round.
We're trying to get past the divisional round.