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Who's your quarterback - 2015 v2.0

infantrycak said:
If they don't take one in the 1st 2 rounds they shouldn't do it at all.
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Yep , the odds of any quarterback turning out to be a good one is slim .... May as well start with the best prospect you possibly can if you are going to take the plunge.

My list is pretty small this year as far as QB goes .... Hundley , Grayson , Petty & Prescott .... time to analyze each one and eliminate the pretenders. (which they all may be)
 
Corrosion said:
Yep , the odds of any quarterback turning out to be a good one is slim .... May as well start with the best prospect you possibly can if you are going to take the plunge.

My list is pretty small this year as far as QB goes .... Hundley , Grayson , Petty & Prescott .... time to analyze each one and eliminate the pretenders. (which they all may be)
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Haven't seen enough of them, but what I've seen of Prescott reminds me of a Randall Cunningham type...

Petty has too many Carresque moments for my liking

Haven't seen enough of the others to have an opinion
 
Corrosion said:
Yep , the odds of any quarterback turning out to be a good one is slim .... May as well start with the best prospect you possibly can if you are going to take the plunge.

My list is pretty small this year as far as QB goes .... Hundley , Grayson , Petty & Prescott .... time to analyze each one and eliminate the pretenders. (which they all may be)
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I wouldn't be surprised if four teams draft QB in the first round.

Tampa Bay, Tennessee, St. Louis, NYJets... then you don't know with teams like Chicago, Kansas City, Arizona, & Philly.

I have no idea who they would be, but I bet four QBs come off the board in the first round.
 
thunderkyss said:
I wouldn't be surprised if four teams draft QB in the first round.

Tampa Bay, Tennessee, St. Louis, NYJets... then you don't know with teams like Chicago, Kansas City, Arizona, & Philly.

I have no idea who they would be, but I bet four QBs come off the board in the first round.
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And yet last year, after predictions of 3 (Bridgewater, Manzeil, and Bortles) in the top 10, only 1 (Bortles) was chosen where predicted. The others fell. It seems that it takes more than the position to excite the people who really draft. It take exceptional prospects at the position.
 
thunderkyss said:
I wouldn't be surprised if four teams draft QB in the first round.

Tampa Bay, Tennessee, St. Louis, NYJets... then you don't know with teams like Chicago, Kansas City, Arizona, & Philly.

I have no idea who they would be, but I bet four QBs come off the board in the first round.
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If I had to answer that today : Winston , Mariota , Hundley & Petty.

Subject to change as the evaluation process moves along. Grayson may jump up the boards. I really wonder why Prescott is so highly rated.
Could see Sean Mannion (Oregon St.) moving up quite a bit but probably not into the first two rounds , most have him in the 5-6 range right now.
 
Marshall said:
And yet last year, after predictions of 3 (Bridgewater, Manzeil, and Bortles) in the top 10, only 1 (Bortles) was chosen where predicted. The others fell. It seems that it takes more than the position to excite the people who really draft. It take exceptional prospects at the position.
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Last year I was predicting those guys wouldn't be drafted in the top 10.
 
TexansFTW said:
What is the title of this thread then? Who's YOUR QB - 2015.

That, to me, implies, who do I want, or not want to be my team's QB in 2015. I'm pretty sure I prefaced my post with something like "this is what I WANT, or this is MY OPINION".

I didn't understand the thread implied who I EXPECTED to be the QB in 2015 and be happy and blindly follow that decision in silence even if I don't agree.

If we aren't here to talk about other scenarios what are we doing here? Circle jerking BoB and Ryan Mallett? I didn't know that's what this has become. Sorry if MY OPINION doesn't fall in line with the consensus. My last name is Sheppard, I will never be a sheep, if you hate me then block me, I will lose zero sleep.

I called Ryan Mallett a loser and have been told how pitiful and sad I am. If none of you are Ryan Mallett's father or brother you should probably relax. Keep attacking me though, pump yourselves up, and internet high 5 each other, but don't go complaining in a Ryan Mallett needs to go thread 2 years later and condemning those who back him.
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Again,

What makes you come to the conclusion that Mallett is a loser? Have you seen in the NFL? Mallett gives the Texans the best chance to win next yr. IMHO

Obviously you don't think tht. I'm for bringing in another QB, but not a 1st or 2nd rd QB. Mariota is the only one worthy of that pick. I do like Grayson in the 3rd.

BTW, Since you know Mallet's a loser, you're an obvious QB whisperer, who do you want the Texans to draft/sign in FA at the QB position? How long do you think it will take your QB to learn the offense. If BOB were doubtful in the QB's and drafted one of the ones you like what would next yrs record be?
 
Corrosion said:
Yep , the odds of any quarterback turning out to be a good one is slim .... May as well start with the best prospect you possibly can if you are going to take the plunge.

My list is pretty small this year as far as QB goes .... Hundley , Grayson , Petty & Prescott .... time to analyze each one and eliminate the pretenders. (which they all may be)
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Are these guys going to be better than Mallett next yr? 3 yrs from now?
 
steelbtexan said:
Again,

What makes you come to the conclusion that Mallett is a loser? Have you seen in the NFL? Mallett gives the Texans the best chance to win next yr. IMHO

Obviously you don't think tht. I'm for bringing in another QB, but not a 1st or 2nd rd QB. Mariota is the only one worthy of that pick. I do like Grayson in the 3rd.
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Mallett hasn't shown enough yet to be labeled a loser. He hasn't shown enough for anything other than potential and speculation. That said, I think he'll come back next year to start. I'm fairly sure that Fitz will be back also. He'll be a decent backup. You don't want him starting, but while you can plan on injury, you can't plan on it. Case will probably get a shot in training camp to beat one out. Savage will be the third. I don't see them drafting a QB this year, unless someone unexpected drops to them and has great value.
 
steelbtexan said:
Again,

What makes you come to the conclusion that Mallett is a loser? Have you seen in the NFL? Mallett gives the Texans the best chance to win next yr. IMHO

Obviously you don't think tht. I'm for bringing in another QB, but not a 1st or 2nd rd QB. Mariota is the only one worthy of that pick. I do like Grayson in the 3rd.

BTW, Since you know Mallet's a loser, you're an obvious QB whisperer, who do you want the Texans to draft/sign in FA at the QB position? How long do you think it will take your QB to learn the offense. If BOB were doubtful in the QB's and drafted one of the ones you like what would next yrs record be?
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You have an opinion and I have mine. I won't back off my stance either as much as you or this forum want to tell me how stupid I am. The same way all of you told me how stupid I was for wanting to do anything possible to get Bridgewater on this team because I thought he was the truth while you and everyone else told me how stupid I was and said Clowney was gonna redefine how awesome an NFL defense could be. I said I didn't want him and the only battle he was gonna win is the one he wins getting off the bus and looking like a beast.

Meanwhile Teddy B looks better each week than he did the previous week, he had middle NFL talent at best at RB, losing the face of the Vikings in AP whom he could have leaned on to help him learn the position. His best WR is poached off the Browns practice squad late September, early October, and yet the Vikings have quietly put together more wins than they had in 2013.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I owe you or no one else anything. I don't believe in Mallet, but if you do, then do you, I'm not gonna hate you or chastise you for it, I just don't want it.

As for everything else, I already stated it all here: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2440107&postcount=612
 
TexansFTW said:
You have an opinion and I have mine. I won't back off my stance either as much as you or this forum want to tell me how stupid I am. The same way all of you told me how stupid I was for wanting to do anything possible to get Bridgewater on this team because I thought he was the truth while you and everyone else told me how stupid I was and said Clowney was gonna redefine how awesome an NFL defense could be. I said I didn't want him and the only battle he was gonna win is the one he wins getting off the bus and looking like a beast.

Meanwhile Teddy B looks better each week than he did the previous week, he had middle NFL talent at best at RB, losing the face of the Vikings in AP whom he could have leaned on to help him learn the position. His best WR is poached off the Browns practice squad late September, early October, and yet the Vikings have quietly put together more wins than they had in 2013.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I owe you or no one else anything. I don't believe in Mallet, but if you do, then do you, I'm not gonna hate you or chastise you for it, I just don't want it.

As for everything else, I already stated it all here: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2440107&postcount=612
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Unless you said Clowney was going to be a bust because of injury concerns i can't honestly see how you can claim anything about the 1:1 pick?

I thought forums were a place to discuss opinions and then reflect on the info and if applicable amend or change your opinion?

Personally i don't see Bridgewater been anything more than another middle of the road QB. Nothing bad but nothing uber.
 
More than likely there will be an open completion with who is on the roster now and/or free agents.
 
TexansFTW said:
You have an opinion and I have mine. I won't back off my stance either as much as you or this forum want to tell me how stupid I am. The same way all of you told me how stupid I was for wanting to do anything possible to get Bridgewater on this team because I thought he was the truth while you and everyone else told me how stupid I was and said Clowney was gonna redefine how awesome an NFL defense could be. I said I didn't want him and the only battle he was gonna win is the one he wins getting off the bus and looking like a beast.

Meanwhile Teddy B looks better each week than he did the previous week, he had middle NFL talent at best at RB, losing the face of the Vikings in AP whom he could have leaned on to help him learn the position. His best WR is poached off the Browns practice squad late September, early October, and yet the Vikings have quietly put together more wins than they had in 2013.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I owe you or no one else anything. I don't believe in Mallet, but if you do, then do you, I'm not gonna hate you or chastise you for it, I just don't want it.

As for everything else, I already stated it all here: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2440107&postcount=612
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I'm not sure what's the point of talk about bridgewater. while he did improve through the year, I still think bortles is better with better upside. time will tell.
 
For me, I would cut Fitzpatrick, sign Sanchez, and draft Petty. Do I sign Mallett? I honestly don't know. Depends on what he is asking for.

Why Sanchez? I believe that if Sanchez can cut down his INT's and fumbles he is a top 10 QB. After what we saw O.B. get out of Fitzpatrick he should be able to do the same for a better QB in Sanchez.
 
TEXANRED said:
For me, I would cut Fitzpatrick, sign Sanchez, and draft Petty. Do I sign Mallett? I honestly don't know. Depends on what he is asking for.



Why Sanchez? I believe that if Sanchez can cut down his INT's and fumbles he is a top 10 QB. After what we saw O.B. get out of Fitzpatrick he should be able to do the same for a better QB in Sanchez.
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Mark Sanchez?!?
 
Tearstain said:
Unless you said Clowney was going to be a bust because of injury concerns i can't honestly see how you can claim anything about the 1:1 pick?

I thought forums were a place to discuss opinions and then reflect on the info and if applicable amend or change your opinion?

Personally i don't see Bridgewater been anything more than another middle of the road QB. Nothing bad but nothing uber.
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I can and will and did, because I don't always see things the way the consensus wants to tell me how I should view things. But that's fair, that is your opinion and your right. I will not chastise you for your opinion, but I will respectfully disagree. I believe that Teddy B quietly did more with less than anyone else, yet is constantly overlooked for whatever reason.

Most of what I said was only applicable to guys that hang out in the draft area of which I was replying, if you want to read up on 80 pages of back and forth about my opinions and everyone telling me how stupid I am/was you can read it there, I will not rehatch it here.

Forums mean different things to different people it would seem. I do like your view of the forum and mine is similar, but the new thing seems to be just shooting down other's opinions and attempting to troll and discredit them instead of saying why the other side of the coin is the correct side. I don't like Mallett, that's fine, that's my opinion, wish someone would tell me why I should though and not that I am stupid for not liking him. That's what I'd like to see, then maybe, I can see where other's are coming from, but that's not what I feel like I'm getting.

None of this means I am opposed to bringing him back for pennies though, but I just don't envision him coming back for pennies to be a realistic scenario. Every QB w/ any upside should be gambled on for pennies IMO.
 
TexansFTW said:
I can and will and did, because I don't always see things the way the consensus wants to tell me how I should view things. But that's fair, that is your opinion and your right. I will not chastise you for your opinion, but I will respectfully disagree. I believe that Teddy B quietly did more with less than anyone else, yet is constantly overlooked for whatever reason.

Most of what I said was only applicable to guys that hang out in the draft area of which I was replying, if you want to read up on 80 pages of back and forth about my opinions and everyone telling me how stupid I am/was you can read it there, I will not rehatch it here.

Forums mean different things to different people it would seem. I do like your view of the forum and mine is similar, but the new thing seems to be just shooting down other's opinions and attempting to troll and discredit them instead of saying why the other side of the coin is the correct side.
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Nothing new there

I don't like Mallett, that's fine, that's my opinion, wish someone would tell me why I should though and not that I am stupid for not liking him. That's what I'd like to see, then maybe, I can see where other's are coming from, but that's not what I feel like I'm getting.
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I disagree with you mainly in that he showed the ability to make quick decisions, correct decisions and with quick reactions. I'm hoping his second game inaccuracy was due to injury and that we will see the first game more often than not. He has more experience, knows the offensive system better and how Godsey thinks more than any other QB we have or could bring in.

None of this means I am opposed to bringing him back for pennies though, but I just don't envision him coming back for pennies to be a realistic scenario. Every QB w/ any upside should be gambled on for pennies IMO.
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I don't think he'll come back for pennies, but he won't be that expensive for the first year anyway
 
TexansFTW said:
You have an opinion and I have mine. I won't back off my stance either as much as you or this forum want to tell me how stupid I am. The same way all of you told me how stupid I was for wanting to do anything possible to get Bridgewater on this team because I thought he was the truth while you and everyone else told me how stupid I was and said Clowney was gonna redefine how awesome an NFL defense could be. I said I didn't want him and the only battle he was gonna win is the one he wins getting off the bus and looking like a beast.

Meanwhile Teddy B looks better each week than he did the previous week, he had middle NFL talent at best at RB, losing the face of the Vikings in AP whom he could have leaned on to help him learn the position. His best WR is poached off the Browns practice squad late September, early October, and yet the Vikings have quietly put together more wins than they had in 2013.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I owe you or no one else anything. I don't believe in Mallet, but if you do, then do you, I'm not gonna hate you or chastise you for it, I just don't want it.

As for everything else, I already stated it all here: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2440107&postcount=612
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I respect your opinion, but I am trying to see what made you form this opinion?

Then I see that your opinion may come from being butthurt over BOB not picking Bridgewater. That explains a lot. Please tell me I'm wrong. BTW Bridgewater looked avg at best to me last yr and I'm sure we will continue to disagree on Bridgewater's future.

I was a Garappolo at 2-1 guy, but you don't see me getting all butthurt about things I cant control.
 
steelbtexan said:
Are these guys going to be better than Mallett next yr? 3 yrs from now?
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I think three of them have the potential to be ....

Question is , how good is any one of them next season , this is a roster ready built for a deep playoff run .... missing a quarterback assuming they resign guys like KJax and JJo comes back healthy or isn't cut.

They could take a big step back next season if they cut or fail to resign some of this years key contributors making it more palatable to go with an unknown at QB in a rebuild .... but if that's the angle they take , why didn't they do it this year instead of putting it off ?!

I think the most likely scenario is that Mallett is the starter going into the season whether they draft a QB or not but like I said before , I want a better plan B than Savage. Hundley in the 2nd or one of Petty / Grayson in the 3rd.
If Mallett works out , we at least have a quality prospect as a backup should he break a nail. If he doesn't work out we have that quality prospect as a plan B and don't have to waste an entire season on one guy who turned out to be a dud giving the rookie a head start on .... 2016.
 
steelbtexan said:
I respect your opinion, but I am trying to see what made you form this opinion?

Then I see that your opinion may come from being butthurt over BOB not picking Bridgewater. That explains a lot. Please tell me I'm wrong. BTW Bridgewater looked avg at best to me last yr and I'm sure we will continue to disagree on Bridgewater's future.

I was a Garappolo at 2-1 guy, but you don't see me getting all butthurt about things I cant control.
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yeah that's new... :kitten:
 
Corrosion said:
I think three of them have the potential to be ....

Question is , how good is any one of them next season , this is a roster ready built for a deep playoff run .... missing a quarterback assuming they resign guys like KJax and JJo comes back healthy or isn't cut.

They could take a big step back next season if they cut or fail to resign some of this years key contributors making it more palatable to go with an unknown at QB in a rebuild .... but if that's the angle they take , why didn't they do it this year instead of putting it off ?!

I think the most likely scenario is that Mallett is the starter going into the season whether they draft a QB or not but like I said before , I want a better plan B than Savage. Hundley in the 2nd or one of Petty / Grayson in the 3rd.
If Mallett works out , we at least have a quality prospect as a backup should he break a nail. If he doesn't work out we have that quality prospect as a plan B and don't have to waste an entire season on one guy who turned out to be a dud giving the rookie a head start on .... 2016.
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Sounds like a reasonable plan to me. Not a Savage fan? Do you plan on cutting Savage? You should only carry one developmental QB on the 53. Out of the QB's you listed I like Grayson the most. Which one do you like?
 
JB said:
You're certainly entitled to your opinion. I disagree with you mainly in that he showed the ability to make quick decisions, correct decisions and with quick reactions. I'm hoping his second game inaccuracy was due to injury and that we will see the first game more often than not. He has more experience, knows the offensive system better and how Godsey thinks more than any other QB we have or could bring in.
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If I recall correctly OB made some comments about Mallett's issues being inaccuracy prior to his taking over as the starter .... He wasn't real accurate in that first game either tho the second was a lot worse.
I think that's the biggest question for him , can he solve that or not.
If he can at worst you have a guy who might be able to ride this defense to a deep playoff run.
If he cant .... You have a backup.

steelbtexan said:
Sounds like a reasonable plan to me. Not a Savage fan? Do you plan on cutting Savage? You should only carry one developmental QB on the 53. Out of the QB's you listed I like Grayson the most. Which one do you like?
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Nope , not a Savage fan. Just too many problems to fix , I think his upside is a career backup and he has a long way to go to get to that point. He doesn't even need to be on the roster , I don't think a team would touch him if you put him on the practice squad.

Right now I'd probably take them in this order - Hundley , Grayson , Petty then it drops off pretty far. Mannion would be my next guy. He might be the sleeper pick of this draft.
 
Corrosion said:
If I recall correctly OB made some comments about Mallett's issues being inaccuracy prior to his taking over as the starter .... He wasn't real accurate in that first game either tho the second was a lot worse.
I think that's the biggest question for him , can he solve that or not.
If he can at worst you have a guy who might be able to ride this defense to a deep playoff run.
If he cant .... You have a backup.



Nope , not a Savage fan. Just too many problems to fix , I think his upside is a career backup and he has a long way to go to get to that point. He doesn't even need to be on the roster , I don't think a team would touch him if you put him on the practice squad.

Right now I'd probably take them in this order - Hundley , Grayson , Petty then it drops off pretty far. Mannion would be my next guy. He might be the sleeper pick of this draft.
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And Mannion will be a career back-up. Not reassuring.
 
beerlover said:
And Mannion will be a career back-up. Not reassuring.
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That's probably true , like I said , there is a pretty big drop in talent from the second three (Hundley , Grayson , Petty) to the next guy (Mannion).

I really wonder how far (if at all) Winston drops. Really hate the idea of drafting the guy but if its about drafting the best possible QB prospect , he's as good as any since Luck.
 
To you guys that think Savage will never be anything other than a career backup, what are you basing this on?

If it's based on his play coming into that one game after Fitz got hurt, how could he be properly evaluated just from that? That's crazy.

Edit: And I think I think I'll become a Cowboy fan if the Texans draft Winston. :gun:
 
Corrosion said:
That's probably true , like I said , there is a pretty big drop in talent from the second three (Hundley , Grayson , Petty) to the next guy (Mannion).

I really wonder how far (if at all) Winston drops. Really hate the idea of drafting the guy but if its about drafting the best possible QB prospect , he's as good as any since Luck.
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Going to disagree with you. He may be physically gifted but Luck has a brain in between his ears. Winston makes VY look like Albert Einstein.
 
Marcus said:
To you guys that think Savage will never be anything other than a career backup, what are you basing this on?

If it's based on his play coming into that one game after Fitz got hurt, how could he be properly evaluated just from that? That's crazy.

Edit: And I think I think I'll become a Cowboy fan if the Texans draft Winston. :gun:
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Well of the last 30 4th round QBs only 3 (5 of the last 60) had any kind of substantial stint as a starter (one you could say well entrenched) so you're looking to bust long odds from the get go.
 
infantrycak said:
Well of the last 30 4th round QBs only 3 (5 of the last 60) had any kind of substantial stint as a starter (one you could say well entrenched) so you're looking to bust long odds from the get go.
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Well odds or percentages aside, you would think that one could reserve judgement on someone until they see him play more than he has. Why even draft anyone past the third round if you're going to let the 'odds' rule from the get go?

He was drafted in the 4th round, therefore he sucks. :cutthroat:
 
Marcus said:
Well odds or percentages aside, you would think that one could reserve judgement on someone until they see him play more than he has. Why even draft anyone past the third round if you're going to let the 'odds' rule from the get go?

He was drafted in the 4th round, therefore he sucks. :cutthroat:
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Of course you should wait to see more before claiming to know, but what it says is folks should be a little less on the Savage is OB's handpicked starter train, etc.

You pick guys that late for the small chance they are starters and the large reality they are backups.
 
Here's an idea:

Go with Mallett. If he doesn't work out, select any one of a few Ohio State quarterbacks in the draft.

:)
 
Lucky said:
How long to you wait on a 25 year old "prospect"? I think the guy has to be one of the top 2 QBs next year. Else, I wouldn't keep him around. By the end of training camp, Savage either will figure it out or he won't. He needs to earn his spot on the roster from here on. Not get another redshirt season.
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I agree with your post in general......

But there's this kid up in GB who didn't get his shot to start until age 25. His 1st game action didn't look too hot either. There's another guy up in NE who was only 1 year younger when he made his debut. Neither really evolved into the beasts they would become until they were 26 or so. I say that to say that most qbs who are going to be anything in this league don't really hit there prime until around 26 anyway. Savage is just fine as a prospect right now.
 
Mr teX said:
I agree with your post in general......

But there's this kid up in GB who didn't get his shot to start until age 25. His 1st game action didn't look too hot either. There's another guy up in NE who was only 1 year younger when he made his debut.
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They were both entrenched as the #2 guy to start their second season. That's all Lucky is saying, Savage should be the #2 guy by the start of the season. IF not, we're wasting our time.

I agree. Which is why I don't think we should bring back more than one of Mallett, Fitz, or Keenum. One of those three should start, & I really don't care which.

That is, if OB thinks Savage is more than just a "project."

If he doesn't believe in Savage, then he'll be buried on the depth chart again.
 
Rodgers first big game action was against the Cowboys in 2007 right? When the Cowboys were like 10-2 or something. From what I remember, he played pretty well that game with help from Ryan Grant running the ball.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Rodgers first big game action was against the Cowboys in 2007 right? When the Cowboys were like 10-2 or something. From what I remember, he played pretty well that game with help from Ryan Grant running the ball.
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As a rookie he played in week 15; 8 for 15 passing, for 65 yards. 1 TD 3 INT passer rating of 38. He also had 2 fumbles.
 
thunderkyss said:
They were both entrenched as the #2 guy to start their second season. That's all Lucky is saying, Savage should be the #2 guy by the start of the season. IF not, we're wasting our time.

I agree. Which is why I don't think we should bring back more than one of Mallett, Fitz, or Keenum. One of those three should start, & I really don't care which.

That is, if OB thinks Savage is more than just a "project."

If he doesn't believe in Savage, then he'll be buried on the depth chart again.
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Considering BoB was comfortable enough to go with Savage as a backup to Fitz going into the Colts game...which up to that point was the most important game of the season for us, I have little to no doubt he'll be the #2 guy behind Mallett next year; unless he gets injured in PS or something. I just look at our salary cap situation with us having to resign Kareem and get Mallett under contract, Fitz's cap hit makes him the odd guy out. Barring some unforeseen restructuring of AJ or Meyers' contract to get more room, It'll be Mallett getting 1st crack at the starting spot with Savage backing him up. Keenum will be here as a 3rd guy for the precautionary purposes; he's already familiar with the system & he's cheap.

If it doesn't go well in 2015, we hit the draft in 2016 with a qb high draft pick...Hackenberg..Cook...who knows.
 
Marcus said:
To you guys that think Savage will never be anything other than a career backup, what are you basing this on?

If it's based on his play coming into that one game after Fitz got hurt, how could he be properly evaluated just from that? That's crazy.

Edit: And I think I think I'll become a Cowboy fan if the Texans draft Winston. :gun:
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The guy was a bum in college. He transferred 3 schools because he wasn't good enough to start at 2 of them. He was a bad pick from the beginning, but he had the size and "project QB" that BoB likes. It was a long shot for him to ever be a starting NFL QB. I felt like it was a wasted pick from the beginning and would have been much happier bypassing the position altogether after waiting that long to act.

Not only can you evaluate him on the one bad game, you can evaluate him on what led up to him getting to that game.
 
TexansFTW said:
The guy was a bum in college. He transferred 3 schools because he wasn't good enough to start at 2 of them. He was a bad pick from the beginning, but he had the size and "project QB" that BoB likes. It was a long shot for him to ever be a starting NFL QB. I felt like it was a wasted pick from the beginning and would have been much happier bypassing the position altogether after waiting that long to act.

Not only can you evaluate him on the one bad game, you can evaluate him on what led up to him getting to that game.
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Lol, this guy here..
 
TexansFTW said:
The guy was a bum in college. He transferred 3 schools because he wasn't good enough to start at 2 of them.
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I'll bet the bum can read better than you. He was the starter at Rutgers until injury. He left Arizona because Rich Rodriguez was hired to coach, i.e. before there was any QB competition.

You may have heard of another QB who lost his starting job due to injury and transferred - Troy Aikman.*

* don't be moronic and act like that is a comparison of the two in any other regard.
 
Mr teX said:
Considering BoB was comfortable enough to go with Savage as a backup to Fitz going into the Colts game...which up to that point was the most important game of the season for us, I have little to no doubt he'll be the #2 guy behind Mallett next year; unless he gets injured in PS or something.
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Hard to say, his choices were pretty limited. But, since he did let the kid throw the ball a few times, maybe.


Mr teX said:
I just look at our salary cap situation with us having to resign Kareem and get Mallett under contract, Fitz's cap hit makes him the odd guy out. Barring some unforeseen restructuring of AJ or Meyers' contract to get more room, It'll be Mallett getting 1st crack at the starting spot with Savage backing him up. Keenum will be here as a 3rd guy for the precautionary purposes; he's already familiar with the system & he's cheap.
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I'm not looking forward to it, but a second year in this system & Fitz may very well be our Rich Gannon. We've yet to see what Mallett would look like with just a little pressure getting to him. & Keenum... he's like a cockroach. Nuclear bomb wouldn't kill him. Which is kinda cool in it's own way.

The Salary cap will work it's way out. Texans have options to be able to do what they want & make the cap fit.
 
infantrycak said:
I'll bet the bum can read better than you. He was the starter at Rutgers until injury. He left Arizona because Rich Rodriguez was hired to coach, i.e. before there was any QB competition.

You may have heard of another QB who lost his starting job due to injury and transferred - Troy Aikman.*

* don't be moronic and act like that is a comparison of the two in any other regard.
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Cool, guess we have Troy Aikman waiting in the wings then! Chas Dodd stealing the job and not giving it back to Savage because the coach thought the great Chas Dodd was doing it better is a lot like the coaching completely changing to a wishbone offense that Aikman wasn't suited to run. And I guess that Savage quitting on the competition before it happened even though pretty much everyone at Arizona thought Matt Scott was about to become the starter over Savage is NOT the same as losing. Quitting before you lose is just fine. Who am I though? I'm just a guy being moronic who can't read. I actually got someone else to write this for me too cause I can't do that either. Aikman won 3 ships, let's do this Savage!
 
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thunderkyss said:
I'm not looking forward to it, but a second year in this system & Fitz may very well be our Rich Gannon.
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Oh God, no. A million X, no. That's the same thing I said last year, and I still feel like an idiot. O'Brien can only turn Fitzpatrick into Fitzpatrick Premium. Which is a .500, rather than a losing, QB.
 
Fitz last game tho. I took a, peek at the f/a qb list and its, grimm. Yall, like Austin davis, or Matt flynn lol

And I don't think cutler is, leaving Chicago
 
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